I don’t feel like that is a good thing to just have things handed to me. I despise it, actually…but, it is nice with my truncated adult life playtime to, for instance, be able to run a few dungeons in the brief period after i get off work before i have to go right back to bed. It works well for this, however, i vastly prefer to take my time with the game an enjoy it as the older WoW was designed around. I wish i had more time to explore every nook and cranny and would happily do so, given a less busy, real life grind.
Then you logoff and try again later.
I understand why some prefer conveniences and quick bites of gameplay. But the thing I love most about MMO’s is immersing myself in a fantasy world. Classic WoW and other older MMO’s did this very well. I grew up on those games, and I just cannot adapt to the newer trend in gaming.
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or then you logoff and try another game.
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Just where I was coming from on it: Development doesn’t take this direction without looking into market research and what’s popular, and what’s asked for, and universally maligned, etc. etc etc. This isn’t talking just Blizzard, but gaming in general. Notice how, say, Black Ops 4 was completely online and with a battle royale mode. You don’t see that without games (albeit terrible games) like Fortnite blasting onto the scene. Doesn’t mean this or that iteration of it is going to be super popular -BO4 was universally rated as mediocre by fans, hence the MW reboot focusing on campaign - but somewhere along the way, they are doing what the populace wants based on market research. The gaming industry is bigger than ever. Simply because WoW lost subs doesn’t mean this type of play isn’t what’s popular. What it seems like to me is that the WoW devs are trying to hold on to some elements of an MMO (i.e. progression through high difficulties, community and communication required for the hardest of them) but turn it into a Borderlands type loot grind (WQs, dailies, LFR, gear upgrades based on rng, giving out gear like candy, etc) , and the result is obviously terrible.
Such a cry baby lol
It’s not the “better way”, it’s just more convenient.
People talk about this often when “flying” is a topic of discussion. Introduced in TBC where the continent was designed for it. Vanilla wasn’t designed for flying, so while yes, we did travel everywhere on foot/ground mount, it wasn’t that bad. Flight paths still existed but nobody ever complained about those.
The first two hours of Infinity War were (imo) pretty boring. Would it have been a better movie to have just cut them out and shown the last hour?
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Comparing something like travel time to a movie is incredibly silly.
A better example would be driving to a vacation destination. Some people will enjoy the drive there, and some will not.
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Yes. Affirmitive. Press fast forward.
One of the worst 1st hours of an ok movie I have sat through.
while i love the classic approach, one can not deny that retail is “accessable”
in fact it is so accessable that if you play more than the minimum you will feel disrewarded
me personally, i dont like the retail approach.
but just talked to a friend who is quite a fan because he can just push high m+ without putting much time into it.
this came with tbc: “time is of the essence”
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Is that you admitting you don’t actually have a point?
Sorry, chief, but to have an expansive and immersive world requires you to be out in it.
No. It’s me saying that you are too stuck in your ways to even argue with anymore lol.
But that’s a fallacy. Remember how, in 2006, everyone wanted to be the next WoW? There were a dozen other genres of gaming but everyone wanted to fight for what was viewed as the most lucrative market available. The result was that whole genres went stagnant. It’s happening again. That does not mean that those genres are dead or even unpopular, just that they are not the most lucrative market.
What the gaming industry has forgotten is that these ignored genres are worth more than you are going to make with a bad battle royale knock-off. You can’t explain that to a AAA exec though.
Is that what you guys are calling flaming out nowadays. Props for attempting to save face, buddy, but you failed pretty bad at it.
Removing the world from WoW is bad.
And again, why are you here complaining about it? We didn’t ask for classic so that they could screw it up all over again… There is an excellent echo chamber in GD just calling your name.
Can’t fail at something I was trying to do 
Not really though. You aren’t REQUIRED to use all of these QoL features. You can if you want to. These QoL changes like flying were added so people who are leveling their like 50th alt doesnt have to do the slow grind anymore.
I can ask you the same thing.
Sorry, the old “you don’t have to do it” line is garbage, and I hope you know that.
Also, I always find it more than a little funny that someone would make an alt and then get cranky when they find out they actually have to play it to play it.
Because I support classic. I wanted classic. I was sick and tired of people like you complaining WoW into the pathetic lobby game retail currently is. I also don’t sit in GD telling people like you that you’re doing it wrong.
Blizz already screwed up WoW once for you and you can go play it right now. Why you, and so many others, come over here and pull their hair out because classic isn’t enough like retail is really odd.
The “It’s called ‘WORLD of Warcraft’, not INSTANCE of Warcraft” line is garbag, and I hope you know that.
Who says this is an alt?
When was I ever doing that?
Who are you talking to? Seriously.
I didn’t say it was called “INSTANCE of Warcraft”, I called it what it is, a pathetic lobby game.
Uh, I didn’t say YOU were an alt. The process is read, comprehend, THEN reply.
You were justifying it because “people who are leveling their like 50th alt doesnt have to do the slow grind anymore.”
When were you doing that? You’re doing it now.
You. Which I why there is a handy “reply” button.
It was implied.
Oh I did. the comprehend part was when you said “someone would make an alt and then get cranky when they find out they actually have to play it to play it.” then “people like you complaining WoW into the pathetic lobby game retail currently is.” and “you, and so many others, come over here and pull their hair out because classic isn’t enough like retail”. Piece it together woman.
I wasn’t justifying it. I was just seeing the logical path of a game developer and the spiral downfall of the early part of a game as you make more and more endgame content.
Message before.
I’m not so sure about that.