I said wow friendly . Yoshi is a big fan of World of Warcraft but comparing it to wow isn’t fair because they both different. But yes Yoshi wanted to make ff14 wow friendly.
I don’t like the way the characters look first, so am not interested in trying it.
No, it isn’t
No, I didn’t
This is so hilariously wrong I genuinely can’t take you seriously. WoW dungeons before mid-high mythic keys haven’t been genuinely difficult in years. Not to say FF14 dungeons are particularly difficult in their own right, but they still at least demand actual attention
That is a factually true statement. WoW is an easier game before Mythic
This, is not. Savage raiding in FF14 is comparable in ways to Mythic raiding in WoW, while normal raiding in FF14 is comparable to less intensive heroic fights in WoW. As a whole, this makes FF14 indisputably more difficult, because normal raids in FF14 are, effectively, LFR. And if you’re actually going to seriously sit there and try to tell me normal raid difficulty in FF14 is on par with LFR difficulty in WoW then you’ve retroactively sent me into a coma from laughter
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A lot of what this guys says is false. Alt job leveling is easy i’ve been doing it its a lot easier than WoW. Raiding is fun and i havent met a toxic community in raiding. A lot of it is opinion based and gear does get bind on use. I find the raids a lot more fun and interactive than world of warcrafts raiding. There is increased dungeon difficulty from normal, to hard, to extreme but if you’re comparing wow and ff14 trying to be the exact same thing than yeah there is no same mythic plus that wow has.
I haven’t even seen the cash shop yet but at this point every MMORPG has a cash shop. The maps are well designed and the only invisible walls he’s talking about are those bordering the zone. Sorta like the same invisible walls that prevent you from traveling through the ocean off of kalimdor.
Once you get used to the combat you don’t even really notice the GCD, sounds like OP has issues with his self esteem and needs to complete super difficult content to feel good about his life. IDK this dude seems like an elitist and was disappointed in not being catered too in FF14 and came here where blizz caters to elitists. To each their own though.
If you like wow continue playing wow if you like FF continue playing FF.
We just wiped on Dzemael. Holy heck it was fun be we got it on our second run after we figured out the first floating eye mechanic.
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Easily the most boring dungeon in the game, I’m so sorry. But at least you made it through
Pfft, lol. They are absolutely braindead easy, and have a static difficulty. Even their design makes it easy because it’s always a long hallway design with static mob placement. There’s no open designs like you encounter more regularly in WoW dungeons with mob packs you want to avoid or have risk of being knocked into, no real patrolling risks either.
No it’s not, like I said before these fights get pugged. There’s some challenge to them but not that much that they can’t be pugged. You see less of that with mythic wow raiding.
They are barely a step above LFR difficulty, you queue into them and you almost always do it first try unless someone really badly messes up. This is some grade-A dishonesty coming from you, you are lying with this. I have actually played FF14 so I do know what you’re talking about and this isn’t true. It’s barely comparable to normal difficulty raiding in WoW.
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Because the difficulty is in the boss encounters, not faceless trash
You sound like you’re trying to compare this to Classic, where the “difficulty” is in the trash and bosses are braindead. I think you have the wrong game.
And you conveniently ignored my entire post explaining why they’re easy to pug
Let me guess: you tried the game in one of the recent expansions and never made it past Heavensward. Maybe try a fight like Tsukuyomi with completely blind randoms and then get back to me on that
From what you’ve said? I sincerely doubt that, at least not enough to actually have any idea what it is you’re talking about
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Normally I would say to take your issues with another game to that game’s forums but since the FF14 suckups have saw fit to squat in here on ours…
Interesting read. The majority of players who are in here gushing about FF14 seem to fall into two categories of people
1.) Players who want top level gear and refuse to do the more difficult content that rewards it and make stupid demands for WOW to change the design it has used for its entire existence. If you want better gear then do the content that drops it. It’s not our problem that you refuse to do group content in an MMORPG that has always encouraged grouping.
2.) Players that want to role play pretty boys and girls. They can’t be a high elf alliance player so here is their fix.
WOW isn’t perfect by any means, but no game is.
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Gashy u have every right to be a die hard fan of World of Warcraft, but u don’t need to trash FF14, as I said they both two different games both games have pros and cons.No matter what u say players that play ff14 will consider it harder than World of Warcraft .
Are you trying to pretend WoW raids aren’t puggable? Because I hate to break it to you, even Mythic is puggable. Once people know the mechanics of the boss, it’s all puggable. And these days you can literally find a guide for everything within hours of it coming out, so there is no reason to not know the mechanics.
LOL. There’s absolutely no challenge in FFXIV dungeon bosses, who are you trying to kid?
Modern WoW dungeons often have open designs as well with risk of death being far more than FFXIV. Especially if we’re talking about keystone dungeons. So nice try, but no.
And that changes the argument how? They are simply not that challenging.
- I’ve played since ARR, so you can quit the smug attitude.
- Tsukoyomi is outdated content and you will absolutely blast her with ease if we’re talking about her normal difficulty. Her non normal difficulty you simply unsync and blast in about 10 seconds. I know because i’ve farmed her for the mount. So again, nice try with the dishonesty but no. She has some mechanics you still need to follow but that takes all of 5 seconds to tell your pug.
I like everything you complained about. It is definitely not as fluid though.
Best thing about 14 is it just lets you enjoy the game , nothing will frustrate you or ask you to play THEIR way. WoW is an e-sport clown fiesta which craps on its casuals, total opposites so play what you enjoy more one hates their playerbase and one respects them.
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It doesn’t crap on its casuals at all, it just expects you to play the content if you want the better gear
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There is no difficulty in world of warcraft dungeons either. If you think WoW dungeons are hard than there is no hope for you in this arguement. I’ve tried hard dungeons on both wow and FF14 and its about the same. You seem to be anti-any-competitor-to-WoW player.
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I would say the same goes for the die hard fans of FF14 who spend every day on the WOW forums trashing WOW while propping up FF14. That would be like me going to the FF14 forums and trashing their game. It’s stupid.
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I’d be really curious to know which dungeons in FFXIV you consider hard and on the same level as WoW ones, because they are all static in FFXIV, while WoW has escalating difficulty levels for theirs.
I’ve played multiple MMO’s so not really, I am very much anti dishonest FF14 shill though because they like to flood other forums with overly glamarous arguments that do not portray the actual truth. They certainly do not mention the actual FF14 flaws or shortcomings.
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As much as I preach the word of Yoshi P now, truly believe FFXIV may be the best over all game of all time for me I will give you this one. If someone is the type of WoW player who skips quest texts, immedietely googles their BiS covenant, conduits and gear, and wants to level as fast as possible to get gear as fast as possible to get into lobby combat grinds as fast as possible…yeah WoW still does that at least a little better. Everything else that should/used to matter in an MMORPG? XiV does it better. IMO.
Leveling alt jobs has been a blast. Daily roulette is fun, and the alt job grind is a nice break from MSQ.
I personally enjoy the fact that for years and months after content comes out, you can experience it not just level appropriate, but skill appropriate. It also makes it great to level with and play with low level friends new to the game.
Hallelujah and praise Yoshi P that it does not and never shall.
Another feature that is a boon to me, not a bane. You hit max level, buy your pre-raid BIS and head to the raid…yeah? So? You mean there aren’t 10k systems I have jump through and grind JUST to get into a raid?
Another aspect of FFXIV that I prefer over how WoW does it.
I understand a lot of people don’t like in game cash shops and they CAN be taken overboard but Im someone who uses them often, in both WoW and XIV and have no issue with them. That said, I feel like the mog station is a lot less in your face than WoW’s cash shop shrug Also stuff on XIV tend to be much cheaper than their WoW counterparts.
Another one I will concede. Sort of. IMO WoW’s transmog system has kinda went crazy with the ease of availibility of being able to wear almost anything at any time. XIV at least has a system where you have to actually do stuff to glamour your items. But transmog is certainly easier to understand than glamour.
PvP is a joke and not the focus of the game. As someone who rarely did PvP for 16 years in WoW, this is not a problem for me. If you love dude bro PvP lol get wrekt arena, yeah WoW is better for you. Not for me. And no world PvP? Wonderful. Lets keep it that way.
Lol what? Whats wrong with the maps? They are maps, they are fine.
You are welcome to walk or fly around anywhere you want if you want to sight see and many do this. Fast travel is OPTIONAL.
XIV is very on rails. It feels like a Bioware RPG from ages past. Its great and I love it. The world could be more open and fewer invisible walls and loading screens yes, but you must remember most places where this is an issue is early game, when it was designed to run on Playstation 3. Im not disagreeing with your points really, just disagreeing that they are even problems.
The long global CD doesn’t feel so long at higher level when you have at least twice as many off GCD abilities as WoW. Combat feels really responsive and sticky to me, with great animations. Are you playing on the correct region? Maybe try technical support? Is your Internet up to stuff?
This is baffling to me. I have yet to encounter a single negative person in XiV. Not one. Ive made friends left and right, Ive RPd, Ive found a great FC. It is literally the best community Ive ever found in any game. Im sorry youve had bad luck with it. XIV community doesnt tolerate BS or rudeness. Its quickly shut down. Blizzard should learn from this.
In conclusion, it just seems like WoW and XIV are both the right games for the players they were meant for. Most of the stuff you say is bad about XIV is stuff that I and a lot of others actually love. And the stuff you say is good about WoW, I actually cant stand and am glad to be away from.
Good luck in Azeroth and play the game you want.
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There’s more challenge in the first boss of the first dungeon of Shadowbringers than there is in an entire run of mythic Spires of Ascension
Have nothing to do with actual difficulty
Stop jumping down bottomless pits and you’d see this is actually not true
Ease of access =/= ease of completion. More people succeed in pugs in FF14 because more people are actually attempting to pug content, because it’s so much easier to do in FF14 than it is in WoW. That doesn’t mean the content itself is easier
Again, I doubt that
Once again, incorrect. Your statements imply content is so easy in FF14 that you can do it with the entire party having no clue how fights work, and if you go into Tsukuyomi blind she’ll wipe the floor with you
Meanwhile there is no dungeon in current retail that requires more than a cursory glance at the dungeon journal to be able to complete before at least mid-level keys
Are you for real? Are you actually using this as an argument? That’d be like me saying “WoW raids are easy cuz I can solo heroic ICC!”
Level 50 dungeons that have the word hard beside them. I compared them to WoW heroic dungeons. For example i did this one recently The tam-tara-deep croft (hard). Disturbing asf but wasn’t that hard.