Why High Elves Don't Work: A Primer

I really need to bake some cookies!

Is this same cycle still going on? I’ll pop off a few facts then move on.

To point 7, canonically the number of void elves is also smaller as well as in game.

To everything over all, the Nightborne, and Mag’har recruitment quests prove Blizzard will bend over backwards for races they actually want, but will not do the same for the Alliance. They had to give Thalrysa VERY thin skin and get butt hurt over Tyrande asking a reasonable question. Suddenly for some reason she believes the Alliance oppresses cultural differences within it’s members. Not based on fact at ALL. For some reason go to Tyrande instead of Anduin even though she apparently got her feelings hurt by Tyrande so why is she trying to communicate with her? Then completely ignore the fact she has no reason to want to war against either faction, both factions are amicable to Suramar, why the hell would they throw that away to join either faction. Don’t give me that protection nonsense, getting protection from a powerful faction doesn’t do any good when there is an equal or greater faction now wanting to kill you in doing so. These are the reasons we are given, Nightborne make sense on neither faction.
They did weird mental gymnastics they didn’t even need to do for the Mag’har, they are perfectly good brown orcs on Outlands that were ignored in favor of the bronze dragons thinking it is just fine for the Horde to pull beings from another timeline to come live in this timeline. Usually that sort of screwing with time is forbidden with the bronze dragons but it’s fine this time for…reasons?

So please, don’t come here pretending this is about anything other than Blizzard being willing to put in more effort for the Horde.

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Okay, we won’t. It’s about us not wanting high elves to be playable on the Alliance because we want to keep the factions distinct and an Alliance of medieval humans, dwarfs, and high elves is overplayed and boring. Giving playable high elves to the Alliance is like getting more other horses.

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but what if the horse had blue eyes?

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You know what…

Fight me!

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I would, but I’m afraid your succubi may get hurt. And we don’t want that now, do we?

You can’t say things like that or the deathknights will start questioning if their horses are actually cool!

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The horses have blue eyes.

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What about an alliance of humans, dwarves, high elves, that also includes werewolves, spacegoats, fire dwarves, squid elves, gnomes and diaper gnomes, fierce wood elves etc. I mean we’d be more diverse if blizz had given a damn about what the alliance have actually asked for instead of giving us shinier draenei, but what can you do?

High elves have been alliance from to start of the game anyway, so the alliance between human, dwarf, and elf is there already. They just need to be playable.

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Broken and Vyrkul would have been nice instead of LF Draenei, or void elves…

Argussian reach rep- check
Valarjar rep- check

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Vykrul could have replaced kul’tiran, high elves could have been lightforged and replaced draenei, broken could have replaced void elves, and they could have found a way to roll wildhammer and dark iron in together, treating it like mag’har and giving them two heritage armor sets.

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High elves have never been playable on the Alliance, and unlike the Horde were never a significant part of it. Even in WC2 they were little more than an ally of necessity and formally left the Alliance before WoW even began. Granted that was the old Alliance and they have never been a formal part of the new Alliance, unlike the new Horde.

They need to remain unplayable.

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its a disingenuous statement. tbf, they have had 2 easter eggs standing around in SW, thats it. when you actually know the lore and look at how its presented in game that statement does not hold up

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They have been far more active in the alliance than void elves, or most of the ARs in fact.

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Care to elaborate? I’m in the horde and beside siding with vereesa (in a vision) and their presence in Suramar to mirror the blood elf presence, I don’t remember seeing much of them lately.

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They existed in alliance cities since vanilla. Vereesa is the leader of the silver covenant who have taken part in a number of campaigns on the alliance side. There are the high elves in quel’danil lodge in the hinterlands. They have bonds with the wildhammer dwarves and draenei.

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the humans of the kirin tor and fogsail freebooters are currently a friendly faction to the horde. a case can be made for playable humans as well. should it happen? ofc not. if you want to play a pure high elf you have to commit to the horde, if you want to play a human the option is on the alliance :woman_shrugging:

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The problem with that line of reasoning is that there a few people on the pro side of the debate who would happily tear down the faction wall completely to have playable High Elves.

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Who needs factions when I would love to play with everyone, not just half of the population?

yea. dissolving factions is the only honest argument for playable uncorrupted high elves on the alliance. but they dont want to group with orcs and trolls as well