Why High Elves Didn't Work - A Restrospective

(Sorry it’s me the mechagnome… was on the wrong character),

I understand your viewpoint. Calling Blood Elves ‘High Elves’ could be seen as an affront to the High Elves that did choose to stay aligned with the Alliance.

There is a video where Keihndeth goes through why they should be differentiated;

He expands upon the construction of Dalaran through to High Elves being treated differently say during the expulsion of Blood Elves from Dalaran.

With that said this is only a perspective, I see merit in what Rialius has said also.

Yes a Blood Elf could in theory be a grandson of a Night Elf.

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All of which I agree with, and does not contradict anything I said. I said from the start they are the same race but that does not mean a bloodelf is a high elf. yes they are both elves, but no they are not the ‘same thing’. The fact you even have to specify them as seperate groups in your post adds validity to my point.

Also, fun fact, all three are from a group of Nightelves that left Kalimdor, the Highborne they are all an off shoot of Elf.

High Elf is the name of the species.

Just to add to the discussion though I have a question for you both.

Nightfallen look weird, almost alienlike. Would you consider them a different species? Does that change when they consume the fruit of the Arcanor or find a suitable supply.

Would ‘Withered’ still be Nightborne? Or consided a different species?

High elf was a title they gave themselves.
Blood elf was a title they changed it to when they stopped being High elves.

Elf is the species.

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Elf is the name of the species. I have not seen any lore sources to say that High Elf is the name of the species.

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That also happened to Blood Elves, it’s just the byproduct of magic withdrawal, they’re not a different species.

There is always the future…Ion and his being obstinate won’t be there forever and hope springs eternal.

Fair enough, they’re just in a degenerated state.

It’s so trippy to think that once upon a time they were all trolls. I love that my Night Elf still have fangs.

Actually Nightfallen or Withered (from the Nightborne) are from a lack of the Nightwell energies/mana. Wretched (from Blood Elves) are those who over indulged on mana. The second is what happened to Liadrin’s apprentice Gallel.

We didn’t change leadership or beliefs. Our beliefs were in magic and power. Our leader was still the Sunstrider family. Until that tragic end. We still have our city.

I guess the other reason I posted this was to gauge how each side has responded to this issue after the customization reveal.

Seems both sides think they’ve “won”, and the same arguments and points I saw 2 years ago are pretty much the same today.

Factually: Neither Horde nor Alliance can make a “High Elf”.

Visually, both sides can get very close, but fall short.

I guess it depends on what you consider more iconic to a High Elf: Blonde hairs, Quel’thalas, Magic racials on one side, or an Alliance banner and allies on the other.

Either way, I feel this is the last bone they’re going to throw this section of the WoW community, and allow players to rely on their headcanon and roleplay regarding their own characters going forward, while not officially or formally addressing High Elves in any way whatsoever.

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They get told this everytime they post about it. But still they think posting it works.

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I wonder what triggers a player to reply to such a thread. When there is no point to the reply.

The change from Anasterian to Kael’thas and then later on to Lor’themar is actually two changed. I get your point that the first two were the same familly, but, its still a change of leadership.

Their was a change in beleifes too, as using fel magic and feeding off living things both went strongly against why the High elves stood for. It caused a divide, The blod elves who would do anything to survive, and the High elves who wanted to preserve their ideas. Both sides had valid points.

You still have half the city, and that has went through major changes too, not that I can talk, I don’t even have half my city left…

For me it was never about ‘winning’ but clearly it is for a few people.

I never expected them to give Void elves more of our Blood Elf appearance so I am disappointed. Hoping they don’t keep making it worse but we’ll see.

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It’s still the same line. The only reason Lor’themar took over was because Kael’thas appointed him to watch over Silvermoon before Kael went insane. It was tragic but it didn’t change who we were lead by. It was still well within the Sunstrider family and who they appointed.

Using fel magic or any magic to siphon is not against High Elf beliefs at all. High Elves ended up in Silvermoon because of siphoning power.

The High Elves that objected wanted to live by human rules. And only made up 10% of the 10% that are still living.

We have more than half the city. There is far less than half damaged.

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Agreed!
Elf is the species, just like Humans, no matter where’s country someone is, everyone is human. blood, hight, wood or drow elf’s are all Elfs. So its all the same. The region one person come from doesnt tell if the person is better or not, its just tell your origins, like your last name.

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I’m going to need a citation on that because I think you guys are just relying on fanfiction.

Fanfiction is not canon.
Y’all need to stop spreading misinformation.

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changing parties is not the same as changing your race. nice try i guess

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