I’ll run M+ with you
Add me: Silvo#11715
Garrisons, LFG, LFR are the answers to this in WoW.
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Part of the reason is that we don’t need each other much anymore. By now most of us have enough alts to cover all the professions, most world content is soloable, dungeon grouping is automated, or at least assisted, and those of us who began as teens or young adults have more responsibility, and less flexibility than we had in our younger, less responsible days.
Sorry for the run on sentence.
happened.
I like to casually cuss. Discord is the only safe space to do that these days and not cussing in the toxic way. WoW doesnt like cuss words, after 1 time out i got, it’s discord or nothing for communication.
So do I, but it isn’t a problem for me not to while playing WoW, just like I manage not to at work, funerals, weddings, etc.
Clarification: I curse up a storm in Wintergrasp, but it’s only verbal. I feel no urge to type it. That’s too much work!
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I’m happy for you but i aint you. I like to not have to filter myself at every thing i do in life.
social contract and stories of undeserved ingame mutes is enough to keep people in guild channel and discord only.
minimal party chat with randoms, like gg ty if that.
best to avoid trade chat completely heh
WoW is often as social as equal to the effort one puts into it.
I consider talking in discord 100% being social in WoW.
Being social in WoW has adapted. People not wanting to adapt are the ones feeling people are not social.
PUG runs are one specific aspect of WoW, and involve the least amount of effort.
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Everytime I join a m+ run the only communication we had was Hi / GG, and that is still too many words spoken
I mostly solo, but would be happy to run small group stuff. I HATE doing raids and large group content. I gave up on using group finder to join PUGs because they suck 80% of the time.
The only other way to develop relationships is through guilds, but all of the “social” elements of the game, if any, take place in Discord now. I’m a member of two different guilds on alts and I never hear anything from anyone in-game.
When I go to discord all I see are some talk about the upcoming raids or whatever. The only reason anyone invites you to join their guild now is because they hope you will fill a slot in their stupid raid.
They need tools of some sort in game for people to find like minded players. I think they said they were working on these in association with the player housing.
I kind of just got sick of the culture. Even so-called casual guilds have requirements that are mentally exhausting to me. I joined a guild after seeing a recruitment message that they were casual, fun folks - twenty seconds after I joined the leader told me to put my ilvl and spec in my guild note and keep updating it, right after asking me if I wanted my main in as well or just this one. I guess it was unfathomable that a level 78 character still experiencing the story this late in an expac could be someone’s main.
And then later that night I was asked to start doing recruiting myself.
Now, to be very clear, I thought everyone in that group was very nice and if I was looking to be more engaged with the inner workings of a guild I would have stayed, but I am truly a casual player in that, I might play for 12 hours one day and then not come back again for a week. I am that casual. Just looking for somewhere to read some ambient chatter, occasionally chatter myself.
So, I think maybe the problem is just a disconnect now with getting like-minded folks together in the same place. Casual no longer means casual, it means raid-lite. Raid-lite means hardcore. Hardcore means, probably you just never log out.
Something in the environment shifted, and folks who really do just want to be social as they do their own thing are left behind because of it.
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As far as WoW is concerned I only see this on retail. Classic is pretty social.
I know several people who have complained to me IRL they never get invited to things. I’m like: “That sucks - when was the last time you hosted something and invited people, though?” … awkward silence.
I get some people aren’t social butterflies and need someone to make the first move. Problem is, that’s become 99% of people I think.
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Not the game, its the players.
I never saw the point in using computer games to make friends. It seems kind of sad to me but I suppose if it makes you happy then more power to you.
I don’t think that’s the problem people are complaining about. I have several RL friends I hang out with all the time. Some of them even played this game at one time. Unfortunately (or, fortunately, from their perspective) I’m the only one who came back.
What most people want, IMHO, is some way to met people in-game to group up in-game.
I dunno know about less social, but if I join one more M0 and someone is being a crude prick so help me 
I’m so sick and tired of the elitism in this game. Stop throwing fits that people can’t meet your expectations in ENTRY-LEVEL CONTENT.
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Unlike 2004, There are hundreds of ways to be social today. Social Media and messaging apps allow you to be social while playing games in another window. I am in several discords with hundreds or even thousands of people in them. Some of them are even WOW-related.
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That’s easier to do now than at any point in the history of the game though. There are more tools available than ever before.
You just gave yourself an explanation, as of why!
Friendship is not about MMR, M+ or 2.5K, it´s about what comes from the heart. You can not expect to find friends in a video game, when all you have to offer are numbers and ingame achievements.
The majority of people in your content don´t care about finding a friend, but about getting their numbers pushed.
If you want to make friends in a video game, then you need to try different and find activities that those do, who are social and interested in you as a companion and not a bot like stat machine that fills a random slot.
As older we get, as more stubborn and fixated we are.
As a 18 years old, a lot of bad, dissapointments, losses have yet to occur, so we are often more willing to make friends with strangers as we are also naiv.
I remember how I entered the internet at 16 years of age or so and I just enjoyed talking to people in chat rooms. Over time I learned that there are bad apples who try to sexualize young people, who try to push for meetings and so on. Now as an elder person, that still is an experience I have in me, so I am more careful giving away personal details.
Once we reach a certain age, for some earlier, others later, we are protecting ourselfs all day, which then often leads to loneliness as it also isolates you.
A good example is the WOW healer, who was insulted and shouted at. He just stops doing dungeons, stops joining guilds… A female who was molested in a guild, may not reveal her gender anymore and so on.
But experience also fixates us on certain “must have” abilities of our friends / partners, as we made positive experiences with them. I have a friend who did date a blond girl, she was the love of his life, he just doesn´t even look at women who are not blond…
We lose our flexibility…
Guess why so many folks 30+ who are single stay single. They are not open for a “not my type” friend / partner, while most of the peach trees have already roots and are no longer available, they still only look for them.
But why not take an apple or strawberry bush?
Anyways,
I wish everyone a wonderful morning!
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