I would argue that there is a real afterlife of which we’ve been explicitly told, one that’s not left up to any creature’s imagination. However, I’ll simply leave it at that since this forum isn’t the optimal venue for such serious debates.
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Basically the life-force/blood of a soul really.
Because it seems like The Jailer is another cosmic villain who wants to assert his side of the cosmology onto Azeroths world soul.
“Death comes for the soul of your world.” “The remaking has begun.”
He’s just Sargeras, but for Death. I fully expect Sylvanas to betray and usurp his powers by the end of the expansion.
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I’m a satanist. Most of them tend to be atheists or at least a little agnostic. ( No I’m not going to shame your faith )
To me, eventually being forgotten is what freaks me out. Think about it. Very little of you will remain in the thoughts of others after just a few generations. That’s “True Death” for me.
Bad writing is why. It sounds fun none the less but story-wise there is no good reason.
I’d say freeing the souls of the fallen from Teldrassil is a good enough reason. A lot of souls are suffering where they shouldn’t be
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Explain this please. Are you talking about the shadowlands or something in the real world to which I would like to point out that various religions have their own definition of the afterlife and what it implies?
Interesting. Why do you allow the memories written in another humans brain to be your only true measure of existence? If Humans are doomed for extinction, as all life is. Why fear it then? Why fear what you can’t control? I don’t understand. It doesn’t bother me that in the end nobody will be left alive to know that I was real. What bring me comfort is knowing that people know that I’m alive and who I am now, when it matters.
It’s not the main measure for me. But it is important.
The thought of nothing forever terrifies me. Especially knowing there’s nothing I can do to stop it. Sure some will be “Freed” from that fear. Mine is just amplified.
I feel like you’d really enjoy the disturbed song “hold on to memories” as its essentially exactly what you’re talking about in how as long as someone is remembered, they’re never truly gone.
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Do you think our player characters will ever become powerful enough to replace the Gods and Masters of existence?
No, but I do think our characters will have a role in a universe “reset” at some point.
I have a feeling the lore is leading to a cosmic war of sorts that will be a jump off point for a lore reset.
I think I get your point. It’s the subjugation and not having any real free will that scares you. To feel and be powerless in the face oblivion. Thank you for sharing what you feel.
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We tried this with Tirion…it didn’t work well for him.
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I guess I’m glad that it’s been observed that the brain basically trips the heck out when you’re dying.
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Oh I will probably be scared when death comes for me. But it’s also kind of exciting. Just think of all the possibilites…of what lies beyond death!
Indeed, they do. (Comparative religion is a topic of significant importance to me.) But where those religions irreconcilably conflict on the specifics of the afterlife, only one (if any) of them can logically match objective reality.
To get back on topic, I just think the WoW version of the afterlife is very lacking like the OP apparently does, so I’m not that interested in exploring it fully. I’ll probably just keep playing old content for now since there is still much of it I need to complete.
It’s essentially the same concept of Gnosticism with the Demiurge or the concept of reincarnation essentially just being a soul farm for loosh as they call it. That you see the Revendreath faction harvest specific beings, that you see the Kyrian faction remake others into sheepdogs and really probably the least awful of the factions being Nightfae since creatures are usually nursed back to wellness of spirit and returned to life. I think Sylvanas has some realistic motives here in trying to break the damn machine of death but we all know she’d stab the Jailer in the back as soon as she gained the capacity to do so.
He’s a means to an end for her and no doubt she loathes him for using her or threatening her with damnation if she didn’t comply. I’d personally if I could in character kick every factions rear end.
All I know is the revendreth story as it was what I tested on beta.
The rich consuming the souls is what we’re there to fix.
The true goal is the higher ups is to teach and help the souls overcome their flaws in life. But denathrius and his buds are just doing what they want right now.
I think all the stories have the normally chummy leaders doing bad or straying from their duties because the maw is taking everything they normally have, leaving them having to do these things to stay alive.
Were there to stop sylv/jailer so therealms can go back to doing their duties and helping souls.
I -think- all souls go there anyway, but their energy also generates anima. The more souls in a place, the more energy these souls will generate.
But I could be wrong, because it’d be weird that only strong souls are able to take shape in an infinte place that depends on them, because at some point the souls might be less and less, depending on how much it’s required to maintain the Shadowlands.