I can play literally any other game and feel like I’ve made progress, but running mythics…or even raids, doesnt feel rewarding…esp when all you get is some tidal cores or a downgrade…hell even leveling feels unrewarding because i know once i hit 120 i cant do anything i want to because i need to grind for several weeks first
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Just like anything that feels unrewarding. You are playing a game that doesn’t push your buttons in a good way. It’s like playing game A, and you are all happy with it… then playing game B and you feel depressed.
Play the games that you enjoy. If something isn’t your cup of tea, it is what it is.
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That’s because there is no end goal. You farm for litteraly days on end with no end in sight. Restrictions in other areas, such as pvp templates, makes gear feel very unrewarding because you’re never making any character progression aside from arena or RBG rating.
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thats not really what i meant…i meant it feels like im not doing anything even after playing for hours, loot comes at the mercy of rgn, and ap is just an annoying endless grind
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Seriously people always go on and on here about “I like actually having to work for my rewards!”. But the time gating of grinds just makes me feel burnt out and makes whatever I finally have worked to get at the end just feel completely unrewarding.
When I worked to unlock void elves/lightforged draenei, when my grind was finally over and I unlocked them I didn’t even feel like playing one anymore. I had all this backstory for my void elf thought up in my mind, how my spriest blood elf main that I was unlocking them on became a void elf or something (I know that’s probably not possible but whatever, it was fun to think about). But when I finally unlocked them I had forgot all about that and didn’t feel like I had been rewarded for reaching the goal I wanted, and just stopped playing the game instead of making and playing a void elf.
Time gating on everything has totally ruined the whole “working and feeling accomplished for your rewards” part of this game for me. Logging in for 1 hour every day to do the same things over and over again just burns me out, instead of working to grind to unlock something at my own pace. I’d seriously rather sit down and grind mobs for a low random drop chance for hours and hours than do any time gated rep grinding. At least I can decide when I want to sit down and grind instead of being forced to do it for 1 hour every day or I miss out on progress.
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I suppose it depends on your expectations.
Mine are much more simple. I log in expecting to have fun regardless of what I aim to do, everything beyond that is gravy.
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well, part of my expectations is to run a mythic and get a piece of gear, not run for a WQ worth of ap and a tidal core, esp for how difficult mythics can end up being
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The reason why WoW doesn’t feel rewarding is because of the excessive time gating and the hard resets that have happened recently with each patch.
WoW needs to go back to its MMORPG roots of allowing people to build toward something during and after an expansion ends.
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I can’t help but agree - dailies are alright, but the whole incentive to log in every day and do a few menial chores has turned me off to a lot of the game.
Combine that with the fact that any gear or power increases I do work for are reset on a regular basis - usually to be replaced with an identical version of themselves with a higher ilevel, from identical and sometimes easier content … it feels a tad hollow, sometimes.
I find myself taking longer and longer breaks. While there’s still a lot I love about this game, everything I need to do to actually get to the parts I love feels increasingly unfun.
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Thats because everything in this game, I mean E V E R Y T H I NG, is done with the main focus on “time played metrics” rather than player enjoyment. So, every single activity and goal that you have in the game is drawn out and barricaded behind stupid controls designed to drrrrag out your time.
Case in point: I’ve been working on the Bee mount this past week. There is no good reason why horde cant do the rep grind except they want you to spend more of your time to make an alliance character. However, in addition to the MANY hours spent as an alliance character to collect enough rep and jellies, there are also things put in place to slow you down for the express purpose of making you spend more time.
For example, you can only get reward from 1 “bee event” per hour even thou they pop up constantly. The event is timed, and its hard to do, so you need a raid full of players to get it done. Just the throw a monkey wrench into the event to slow you down, horde players can start the event even thou they get no rep or rewards from it. That means as dozens of alliance players wait 15 or more minutes to finally get a full raid team, it takes just one horde to come along and prematurely start the event and ruin it for all the people in the raid who now need to wait ANOTHER HOUR just to see if they can do it all again. There is NO good reason why the developers allow this to happen other than they want to s crew the alliance players and cause them to spend MORE time.
Personally, I am sick and tired of their head games.
I think it’s just a sign that you’re growing up.
It’s a game. If you want personal satisfaction, do something that matters. You’re not going to get that from video games. Oh sure, you can get glimpses of it here and there, but after years of it - it all starts to feel the same.
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I disagree. There’s definitely still games out there that provide a consistent sense of satisfaction and reward.
They’re unfortunately, however, mostly singleplayer experiences.
Yeah, it’s entirely possible that the OP has simply grown out of WoW, I’m not going to dismiss that as a possibility, but I don’t think it’s right to use that assumption to dismiss their concerns, either - the game has some problems, right now.
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If you have to grind for weeks to get to a respectable ilvl after hitting 120 you probably don’t know what to actually do to gear up.
Took me a week of maybe 2 hours a night to get from fresh 120 to 420 ilvl.
WoW’s strength was always in its sense of community. It was a phenomenon. People were logging in and throwing their lives away to spend in a game world. It wasn’t because the game was so great. It was because there wasn’t anything like it. WoW was social media before social media really was a thing. That there were rewards and things to strive for were really secondary. It was that you were doing all of this stuff and there were other people around to share it with.
That kind of fell by the wayside. Now it’s just a big skinner box.
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For what it’s worth, by the look of 8.3 and Shadowlands so far, it seems the gigantic drop in both subs and playtime by people subbed has taught Blizzard a lesson about their manipulative game design. They aren’t so smug now that their arrogant defense of terrible ideas has driven the majority of their playerbase away.
They make so much money off of the cash shop now. Maybe they can get back to making the game fun for the sake of fun, rather than giving us endless grinds and alt unfriendly gameplay.
Yeah I know I sound a little bitter.
IMHO, they just oversaturated the world with stuff. If something was considered fun they kept heaping on more of it.
“We heard you like mounts.”
“We heard you like pets.”
“We heard you like toys.”
… titles
… epics
… legendaries
… dailies
etc
They just kept piling it on and on and on and on. “World of Pets, toys, and mounts” should be the title. Not, “World of Warcraft.”
So yeah, it’s easy to see why someone might not feel “rewarded.” It’s called being jaded.
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Have to agree. I mean dont get me wrong,I still love my video games. But they are really not as important to me as they once were. I get about the same amount of satisfaction from watching tv. Its just a form of entertainment and a temporary distraction for me.
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Its because its the same thing over and over again and has been for years. People get worn out by it , i know i am, its why i play classic it has the Azeroth feel but its a completely different animal which i like atm.
I think people also need to keep in mind that our perceptions change. I remember the first time I rode a supersport motorcycle. It was better than sex. It was just pure happiness and excitement. Over time, it became much less exciting. Eventually, I would just let the bike sit in the driveway without even so much as a second glance. It wasn’t that the bike changed. It was my expectations.
Just remember that all things fade. It’s perfectly okay to move on to something new.
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