Why does the opinion on Aff vary so much?

I have multiple ways to mitigate damage from the destro lock, even when CC’ed. RoS, Chimareral, and especially Interlope are all very effective against destro. Interlope can completely neutralize a destro locks go and it’s on a 45s CD. RoS and Interlope are basically useless against affliction.

Also, feign has been bugging for me. I keep getting hit with the UA dispel damage.

Widest gap between skill floor and ceiling I can think of for any class or spec in this game.

Bad Aff dies faster than bad rogue, great aff makes people yank their hair out.

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no pressure vs overwhelming pressure. I agree with this. not because ur a qt, just because its right.

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Aff isn’t bad but aff isn’t good either. The spec has 0 peels outside of fear coil. Often you can just ignore a freecasting aff lock and shut down their teammates.

If you ignore a freecasting destro they will solo carry the game

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Full 180k dmg?

Yep yep. It’s happened quite a few times. =/

I’ll grab a screenshot when I get home.

hey that was fun

Ww got more than just minor buffs. They got buffs to rising sun kick and whirling dragon punch

because those who train aff locks notice its not bad to play against them and kill them (kick drain life soul rots or soulburns).

Those who let them freecast then complain about their damage (no duh). and even then, its meaningless rot damage and if you just shut down their burst. thats all you need to do.

or there is a huge difference between squared away and not squared away.

Aff damage=Stier

Aff Survivability= ~B tier?

There’s just too much consistent damage going out for aff to be viable unless they have a very good healer/peels/support.

The damage is great though, no doubt about that.

The loss of demon armor and soulshape killed aff for me personally.

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all these numbers, aff either square away or don’t. the difference is actually the largest anything can be.

pay me if u want me to teach u how to read

Coz its the way the spec works

Better, higher rated player playing with better,higher rated healer = Affliction warlock survives longer = Affliction warlock wins

Low CR lobby with Timmy the Ret paladin and Jimmy the Holy Paladin both using Blinding light on your burst cds = Affliction warlock dies ingame and irl simulatenously

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I mean Affliction warlocks have to actually be good to play the game well unlike 95% of melee specs in the game that are training them.

Aff also should 100% be higher than everyone else. They’re constantly hitting 3 targets. The fact that there are specs in the game that mostly hit 1 target and still are relatively close to Affs damage is insane.

That said affliction has needed a rework for a while. Their honor talents are antiquated and their damage being tied exclusively to dots is also antiquated. The spec should play more like shadow priets where they aren’t living and dying by spreading dots and can still do meaningful damage while getting spam dispel’d / can reapply their dots easier when they do

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Afflic is probably really solid in 3s. In RSS? Let’s just say it really varies…

Reading this triggers me

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the amount of times I have been about to burst and just absolutely farm the points off of double melee hitting my ret, then my ret blinding off ALL of my dots and then complain about why I do no damage…

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I dont think alot of people understand how hard afflock actually is to play at higher levels.

Is it though?

Yes. One of the harder classes.