Why does bolivar act tough or like he is a leader

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No point of arguing, but here’s the definition of ret-con
_“(in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency.”

If you can’t figure out that they ret-con her story to fit the new xpac with multiple sources proving other wise, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Also, that isn’t the case especially when the new info literally contradicts what was already established, hence the reason why people resort to calling it ret-con. Other than that I rest my case on continuing this.

Yeah agreed. Not to mention Arthas had been actively increasing his own power as well as the might of the scourge. Bolvar has been much more passive, if he’s even been increasing his power at all, and he definitely hasn’t been increasing the scourges strength.

Though as far as the cinematic is concerned it would’ve felt better if he had at least gotten one hit in.

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If I may paraphrase Obi-Wan… she’s more Old God now, than elf. She’s been amassing LOTS of power since then. The Lich King… has not, really. He helped the Ebon Blade’s Deathlord with some powerups, he learned how to control the Scourge, but he’s not the same guy he once was; he doesn’t have Frostmourne and he’s not really been working his mojo.

But no worries. We will stand with him, and we will put Sylvanas back into the ground where she belongs (I hope).

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If you slow down the video on youtube you can see Sylvanas with a look of shock right before it hits her.

Just have to look real hard though lol

He was a Highlord Paladin. He was the Regent Lord of Stormwind. He is the Lich King, jailer of the damned, infused with the titanic power of Alexstrasza. He endured the torture of Arthas himself and did not yield. He’s actually a pretty big deal and people are sleeping on him. He lost to Sylvanas who got buffed so hard by Blizzard she can actually beat anyone in a 1v1, not just LK, so that doesn’t mean anything.

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Bolvar stood up to Sylvanas like a boss. Doesn’t matter if he lost the fight, he’s still a tough guy in my book.

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Getting healed and/or burned by Alexstraza does not mean they’re infused with her power.

But yes he’s definitely very strong. I do agree Arthas was most likely a more powerful lich king since he had frostmourne and was actively absorbing souls and trying to increase his power.

Not that it would have mattered either way since, as you said, Sylvanas got buffed harder than pretty much any character to date for plot purposes.

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Paladin is just a class.

…and? He was upper middle class is that what you’re saying?

That’s his job title that he got because no one else wanted it lmao.

That’s a fancy way to say on fire.

Cool. So did Sylvanas.

If he’s such a big deal he wouldn’t have sat down in Icecrown doing nothing for 10 years. His only purpose was to keep the undead on a leash. That’s it.

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He lost to toxic feminist empowerment, out of his control.

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That’s like complaining that a president or a prime minister is weak because they don’t go into the trenches with soldiers during a war.

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Isn’t Bolvar just a DK who volunteered to take on the helm?

Didn’t he fall at the Wrath Gate and Alexstraza’s intercession prevented him from fully serving Arthas?

I don’t get why people think he was as strong as Arthas.

No, Darion and the Deathlord were in charge of the Ebon Blade. The Lich King did not take Acherus from me since I was able to claim my mount. The Lich King only tried to influence the Ebon Blade during Legion. Also Blizzard needs to make some kind of reason why the Deathlord would give up control of the Ebon Blade. Other than just to allow allied races to become Death Knights.

We are the Ebon Blade and he is our leader, brother and comrade in arms. This is something that a panda with your intellectual prowess(or lack of), and with your taste in attire could never understand in a million lifetimes spent on that pointless turtle you call home.

By being a character that the lore bends arounds for her to accomplish what she does, rather than respecting the established rules, yes. Yes she is.

Jaina has a few moments that really scream “mary sue” as well, but she’s still riding the line. Sylvanas jumped over it.

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Jesus Christ could arrive in a flaming chariot, sword in hand, with the Four Horsemen behind him and the way Sylvanas is being written right now she would slap all five of them into next year without breaking a sweat.

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A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect [fictional character]. Typically, this character is recognized as an [author insert]or [wish fulfillment] They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience, and usually are able through some means to upstage the protagonist of an established fictional setting, such as by saving the hero.

Willpower is the only reason Arthas didn’t break him. Red dragonfire just kept him from dying to the Blight.

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True, but it is what kept him alive through the blight among other things. It has clearly changed his physical appearance and has even changed his power at least somewhat as we saw in the cinematic.

Ah yes. The “Where’s Poochie?” syndrome.

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