Why does Blizzard hate Night Elves?

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A Night Elf has to be from Darnassus in order to count as a night elf?

You have every major night elf leader in WC3 present during the Legion campaign, and this doesn’t count because you can’t be certain of the origin for the nameless NPCs?

That’s very weak.

I’ve given you an example where this happens, you quoted it, and are simultaneously saying it doesn’t happen.

The fact that the Night Elves are able to hold their own in an ongoing conflict without Alliance aid is a feat that hasn’t been seen since the beginning of vanilla WoW.

And besides, with the way the war campaign has ended, do you honestly think the Night Elves didn’t become the canonical victors of the Darkshore conflict?

They’re totally getting Darkshore back.

Not scary, because it doesn’t matter. If you want to go by canon the Night Elves have settlements throughout all of Kalimdor. Historically speaking, Darnassus isn’t even their ancestral home.

Even if Gnomeregan began hostile in WoW’s lifespan, all that means is that the gnomes started off on the very bottom rung on the totem pole.

Interspersing your points with attacks on my intelligence doesn’t make you sound smarter, by the way. Let me just say that right now.

And because the characters in Val’sharah did not do exactly what you wanted them to do does not provide evidence that the writers “hate night elves.” Giving them story relevance at all is evidence to the contrary. The Night Elves don’t fail to receive development just because they didn’t have any conversations with Illidan. That’s just nuts.

Varimathras wasn’t even in the game anymore by the time Malfurion was present as an NPC. Varimathras left in Wrath. Malfurion returned in Cataclysm.

You don’t, man. I can keep tearing through them, though. I’ll be a lot nicer about it if you stop with the personal attacks, though. Promise.

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How dare players be mad about negative things happening to the race they’re invested in amirite?

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I mean, I main a gnome. It took FIFTEEN YEARS for us to even get a single ZONE.

It’s just that elf playerbase is constantly mad that their uber powerful and unique elves don’t win constantly.

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Nice word soup but not really seeing a whole lot other than THIS COULD HAPPEN and OTHER RACE HAS IT WORSE!

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And still your race hasn’t been wiped out, their land destroyed and made fun of.

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Though I do want to point out that just because some races are written even worse than other races doesn’t mean that the writing for the other race isn’t bad. That’s like saying “I don’t want to be stabbed, I need a hospital if I’m stabbed.” and someone going “No you don’t, some people get shot, they have it worse than you.”

Bad writing is bad writing. Activision-Blizzard makes a lot of bad writing. The fanfics are actually better and more canonical than the source material at this point.

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I will admit, I am a little confused. Tyrande changed to a night warrior and it felt she just dropped off into the background again, I was looking forward to seeing some sort progression with the night elves (a nice refreshing change from the human focus in all the wars) but out never really happened?

I mean sure there was some great story from the void elves in Legion, but I was hoping to have the core classes have their own focused story.

In fact, I would actually love to see other factions get more focus than just the humans and orcs now that I think about it. Like the tauren, I would love to see more focus on faction specific stories, maybe even instead of making it always horde and alliance, make an expansion that revolves around races and their own stories? Bring everyone home?

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Word soup, eh? yeah, I know that tactic. When people don’t want to deal with the actual points within it they just pretend they can’t read it at all. That summary is dramatically inaccurate.

Sorry you don’t like night elves anymore. Don’t worry though; I main them enough that I can play for the both of us.

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As far as I’m aware our original home is a demon-infested wasteland, our ships are crashed and broken for the most part, Draenor is just gone lol.

We have two settlements on Azuremyst disregarding the Exodar.

Your race hasn’t been wiped out. You’ve had a taste of what the Draenei have had to deal with.

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Personally, I feel it seems like they ‘hate’ them because they’re a poor fit for the Alliance. Ergo, it’s difficult to fit them into traditionally Alliance-centric stories without them just being set dressing for the humans, dwarves etc.

Really the only reason they’re in the Alliance at all is because Blizzard wanted some playable elves, and wanted two factions, so kludged 'em in and changed them from their more savage ways established in WC3.

Tyrande’s recent change seems like a good way to bring them back to their roots, here’s hoping they don’t just turn her into a raid boss down the road.

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I hope so too, but the way events are playing out makes me very doubtful and annoyed.

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Well Blizz devs said that Tyrande got her revenge in 8.1 (which apparently happened offscreen and is kept as a secret) so they can just ignore her and move on to other stories.

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Laughs in Activision-Blizzard

The most progression we’ll get are new tinted night elves that get to be charged for. If they feel like they have to close out the story they will absolutely just make her a raid boss.

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Night elves the bad guys? I’ll come back and apologize to you if that actually happens, but there’s no way I see that being the case. At least, not the way you seem to be implying (with Tyrande being the main antagonist and all).

Night Elves are the ones with justifiable anger. Worst case is they’ll keep the PVP alive, but that doesn’t make them the villains.

If anything, the ending of the war campaign strongly implies that the night elves will not be accepting peace with the Horde. Walk around Boralus and listen to the Darnassian sentries. They say some very interesting things.

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To be fair,
Night Elf story has been playing out the last two expansions with Illidan and Azshara.

besides that, what else do the Nelves have going for them? Malfurion and Tyrande are bland, one-dimensional characters. Night Elf culture has no grand ambitions, plots, or schemes.

There has always been a struggle to bring NE’s into the overarching narrative of WoW, as there is very little reason for them to be in any alliance, let alone the Alliance.

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Much as I’d seldom throw shade,it does tend to seem that way from my observations. Every race has taken their fair share of L’s [FFS my leader’s a gnomescicle atm just when we were finally getting some agency >_>] I get being frustrated but most forum posts I’ve noticed from a good number of nelf posters it seems the salt pile is almost on par with the Mercy mains on the Overwatch forums. And as another poster put,goblins lost their homes and kinda have a jerk for a leader [I personally prefer foreman Gazlowe over Gallywix] and Tauren not only lost Turajo,but were nearly killed by invading centaurs before they met Thrall. Dwarves had some appearances here and there but weren’t very prevelant this expansion.

Again,I understand frustration from taking Ls,but the devs aren’t twirling their moustaches plotting elaborate ways to oppress nightelf players going “This is punishment for not learning your place and not playing a human!” There is no anti-nightelf conspiracy. ._. That’s just nutty.

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Daelin Proudmoore had justifiable anger and he’s still regarded as a villain, mentioned even by Anduin as one of the Alliance’s “regrets”. Right up there with Arthas. Tyrande’s anger might be more fresh but if she compromises the new peace between the factions and puts Alliance lives at risk, she’ll be just the same, and it’ll likely end just as badly.

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The orcs were peacefully building a new city on a continent across the ocean and Daelin wanted to commit genocide. Justifiable anger? Yes. Justifiable means? Absolutely not.

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So what happens if Tyrande wants to commit genocide?

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Define genocide.

If she wants to purge all orcs from here to Orgrimmar, then she’ll probably have to be stopped.

If it’s a territorial thing, like she attempts to reclaim Azshara… then… it might be interesting to be given the option to support her in that. And it would probably be the foundation for continued PVP scenarios between the factions.

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