Why does blizzard hate feral dps?

I’ll never understand the level of stupidity required to come to this forum and argue against a class getting a buff into the normal range of damage output.

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I’ll never understand the level of stupidity required to come to this forum and arguing for game changes because you dislike your position on details. It’s an add on. It doesn’t matter. You still cleared the raid.

Feral is fine. It’s past fine. Reroll or just enjoy your mandatory raid spot.

Because there is a good case to be made for druids providing so much utility it should qualify them for less damage.

The problem is this rule seems to been applied unfairly because shaman do way more damage and also provide ungodly amounts of utility whilst being the second class in the history of all versions of WoW to have the range/melee/tank/healer role all in one class.

At least you’ve got it better than ranged hunters.

That’s the core of the issue, an utility tax is fine on paper, but they can’t even balance the game without it, imagine if they also have to take that into account + pvp and pve balance. It doesn’t make sense to keep a class in the dumpster while other classes with just as much utility thrive, specially when that utility actively hurts the gameplay since most of it requires shifting out of form in the case of druid, losing mana/energy/rage, which is frustrating.

Also, druid is not the only class with utility. Are mage’s CC/consumables/portals/buffs/mana jades/and now heals not utility? Are warlocks soul and life stones and curses not utility? Are warrior’s shouts/sunder armor not utility? Do priests have no utility? All classes have utility, yet not all of them are balanced accordingly.

In this log obsessed world we live in at a certain point that utility starts fading into the background and the thing that matters the most is if your character’s DPS is so low that bringing them over someone else is straight up a bad choice. I don’t think we are at that point yet though, my problem with feral druid is less related to numbers. And pvp balance is another thing to consider.

What? lol… Boomkins have only recently been brought up to middle of the pack with the recent buffs to moonfire and starfire. Buffs that were only given because those spells were not being used AT ALL in PvE.

So what about PvP? Feral feels even worse in PvP than in PvE right now. Druids are really the only class that has to use a resource twice to use an ability if they are not already in that form. Need to charge? You have to use mana to get into bear form and then use rage to charge. Need to heal while in feral/moonkin form? Need to use mana to heal and then use mana again to get back into form. Moonkins and shadow priests have similar issues, but their mana pools are a lot deeper than a feral druid, so it isn’t quite as big of a deal.

Ferals would feel a lot better if the shifting cost was reduced by a significant amount. Ferals can only shift into bear/cat form three times before going OOM, so even natural shapeshifter isnt enough as it would only give us one additional shift before being OOM. Another option would be if blizz added a grace period to shifting where shifting back into form within x number of seconds costs significantly less mana or is free.

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Ferals were originally designed to be an in between class who can everything but never good at anything to prevent them been op. They are bad in classic, but other classes were just slightly better.
In sod some of the classes are overtuned, which makes ferals look even worse

Anyone who brings up the hybrid tax should have their forum privileges revoked, or they’re just trolling.

Imagine trying to purposely balance some specs to be bottom of the barrel dps in a limited time, experimental game mode just because they bring “utility”. Pretending that the vast majority of classes do not also bring utility AND damage.

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Feral: Damn I did 290 Dps on Thermaplug with 100% uptime on boss.
Parse: 94

Warlock: i’m so bad I did 560 Dps on thermaplug while kilking bombs and clicking buttons out of range of the boss.
Parse: 45

But yeah, we have “utility”. I gave my melee 5% extra damage. There’s a point that just bringing an extra range > the damage provided by wild strikes.

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You got a rune that provides the most coveted melee DPS buff in the game (WITHOUT having to place it like shamans do)… I don’t think they hate you dude…

If getting windfury is the tradeoff for being a competitive dps class… then I would’ve honestly preferred not to get it all all lmao

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if you join a raid as a dps, you won’t need to tank unless the group sucks.

every class is a hybrid except hunters

New to feral? It took them from 2016 until this tier for feral to be decent enough to be represented in end game content on retail. Masochism is a big part of the feral community, embrace it. (And I feel you on this, I hit 40 and just wasn’t impressed so went boomie.)

You can be a hippo and still want hippos to bring more damage to the table.

:man_shrugging:

his mum is a hippo but we dont complain

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:+1:

Nobody has a problem bringing 3 Fire Mages. Three feral Druids? :rofl:

I’m not interested in playing until feral is buffed to the level of other classes. It’s just not fun and tickling people is a waste of my time. The only time it’s possible to do decent damage is with berserk but even with that if you’re not able to spam shred you’re still just slightly annoying to other classes. Oh and ferocious bite hits for less than my shred and requires 5 cp lmfao not to mention the mana issues with changing forms, if I’m not careful I’ll just go oom trying to escape from snares :laughing:

Too real :purple_heart:

I keep shooting things and eventually they die. And sometimes I do more damage than other people… and that feels better than being an OP class and putting in no effort to “top” the charts

Think of how bad classic was for basically every class besides 2-3 specs from 1-60 and beyond. SoD is great. Should people get some buffs? Sure, but the fact that you can play all these specs is awesome!

I don’t care if melee hunter does 3x the damage of second place dps. I wanna play a ranged hunter, and so I do. It’s fun

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I mean… we do less damage than you and bring less to the table. I don’t seem to have any issues getting into a raid group…

But then you are not happy as a hippo. that makes me sad. Maybe if you wait long enough a zebra will float by in a boat. Then you can wreck his smug zebra face. Unfortunately you are going to have to be a patient. Hippos are know to wait so still that, despite their size. you don’t even notice them. Then all of a sudden out of nowhere hippos are attacking from everywhere.

Like a Hungry Hungry Hippos—Wrath of the Hippo King.