Because it doesn’t adress the elephant in the room? I mean it’s great, but it’s far from what is needed.
Needed according to whom?
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According to everyone when it comes to a resolution for Teldrassil?
You’re the only person who thinks that giving Nathanos a free ride to the maw resolves and avenges Teldrassil.
Me, and other Alliance players. And you for whatever reason seem to enjoy putting down those who wish for that.
Nope.
A few people on the forums?
If you say so… All I’m saying is that what you may want isn’t necessarily what the story needs.
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Nathanos was ultimately just Sylvanas’s main henchman. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to want to see Teldrassil’s resolution not simply stop with him. BFA very intentionally left that plot point unresolved in a way to leave people feeling unsatisfied and wanting more.
Oh, I fully agree. What is unreasonable is thinking that what an individual may want is
- What everyone wants
- Best for the story
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Yes, because you are the lord of objectivity, beyond such trifling concepts such as bias. Tell me, what do you think the story needs?
I’m no stranger to sarcasm.
Probably to end. Restart things with WoW 2 or WC4.
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So that that we can sweep Teldrassil under the rug, and have any chances of followup or closure be utterly destroyed? For someone who criticises others for their lack of objetivity, you do a very poor job of thinking outside of your own viewpoints.
If that’s how you interpret that, that’s a you problem.
LOL.
Go ahead and find any of posts that states my opinion is definitely what Blizzard should do. Find a post of mine demanding the story goes in a particular direction.
Go ahead.
I’ll wait.
Do not compare me to the people who are frothing at the mouth about what they want and attack/ insult anyone who disagrees with them.
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How else am I supposed to interpret putting both time and a whole new game between these events? It’s entirely so that the Horde can distance itself from what they have done without actually doing squat about it. or perhaps you might tell me what you think it would accomplish positively for the Alliance and the Night elves?
I’m not saying it’s what Blizzard should do “for the betternment of the story”. I’m saying it from the perspective of someone who wants teldrassil to be felt and heard far more than it has so far. That’s all. And I also hope that can be done without hurting Horde players.
Nothing about my post says the game needs to end right now.
This is your assumption. An assumption based on the idea that the Horde (read: players) need to make up for something they had no choice in (aside from not playing, of course).
You, again, assume that Teldrassil wasn’t felt by anyone who doesn’t have a blue background. Here we are 2 years later and is Horde players are still bombarded with how evil we are both in the story and (by some rabid fans) in real life.
This is a take not everyone agrees with. There are posters in this very thread that want the opposite. They want the Horde to “suffer as much as or even more so” than they have. The people I call out (typically) are the ones that follow that unreasonable train of thought. Because it helps no one and nothing.
There’s a reason that a lot of the current Horde posters seem to “lack empathy” for Night Elves, the Alliance and Teldrassil. Because of those being unreasonable and unfortunately the loudest its hard to be heard. The moderates get meaningful discussion, the diehards get shot down.
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Yes Sure it’s been felt on the forums. Hardly in game however, which is where it counts. I don’t think Horde players need to atone for anything. The faction itself and lorewise, very much so. Or at least let the Alliance hold on to that grievience without it being diminished by time.
There are Horde posters here who geniuinly believes Teldrassil was justified, and that they think the Horde is justified in destroying the Alliance itself. People who frankly could not care less about the other side. Do you think I care an iota what those posters think? Course not. So why do you let the Night elf posters get to you?
And if i’ll be even more frank, how do you think ending the game would change the story in any way, shape or form? It would still carry over into the next one. The same events will still have happened. Nothing will have fundamentally changed.
What?
Horde lost UC and Tirisfal
Horde missed out on getting Rastakhan as a Horde character
Horde lost every warfront
Horde lost Saurfang to terrible writing
Horde had another civil war
Horde lost another warchief
Horde got another speech by a Wrynn in Orgrimmar
All this stemming from The WoT and the Burning of Teldrassil.
It gets minimized quite a bit.
And they’ve been lumped in with the entirety of the Horde playerbase by certain (loud) Alliance posters. They are, however, the exception and not the rule. Just as I don’t think every Night Elf poster is a NEFPA not all Horde posters are apathetic to or unaware of the Aliiance’s plight.
That depends on how they restart the game in WoW2 or WC4. The first and second war still hung over the Horde in WC3 but the story moved forward. Certain posters still bring up the Path of Glory and feel Draenai have zero culpability in bringing the Legion to Draenor. Some things were addressed immediately others took a while. I’m not certain the exact path the story would have to take as I’m not a game designer.
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I didn’t need to consult Nostradamus to figure out that we’d see Sweet Natty B again. We’re killing him in the opening act of a story entirely about the afterlife.
Look at it this way. Now we get to kill him twice, or better yet; We get to see his girlfriend leave him in the Maw because he’s outlived (hah) his usefulness.
Then we get to see the exact moment his little undead heart breaks. That should be neat.
I just realized… this may be what leads to Nathanos betraying Sylvanas. He sees that she has truly become a monster and is no longer the woman he loved in life, and in death, and he helps us try to stop her. He then ends up somehow coming back and leading the Forsaken as he “paid the price for his loyalty to Sylvanas” by being killed by Tyrande, and then he “redeems” himself by helping us take her down.
I hope not. But that’s just, like, my opinion.
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Ehh it’s better than special snowflake light zombie Calia leading them. Although for once I would like the Forsaken to actually have a leader who LOOKS like them and uses their model.
Darn near anything is better than Calia.
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