Why do people hate on mechagnomes

[Coaxial-draenor]

And lack transmog options to an absurd degree. Fail.

Personally this was not a problem for me in any way.

I mean, there was anticipation surrounding the race reveals, and the mechagnomes just fell completely flat. Nobody was cheering for them, and almost nobody bought racechanges. Not in comparison to the Vulpera, which is what the alliance sorely needed.

Citation needed. lol

Imagine if instead of mechagnomes they had been “junker gnomes” and had been based more on the Warboys from Mad Max: Fury Road. Expand Bondo’s yard into some kind of race-track around the island and have them fight the mechagnomes from Mechagon in high-octane vehicular combat a.la the fast and the furious 7.

So instead of running around an island doing yet more daily quests you would go to the island, hop onto some kind of crazy vehicle, and then play a bunch of rotating mini-games.

For the race themselves keep the cybernetics, but add more desert-punk aesthetics in the vein of Mad Max, Desert Punk, Try-gun, IGPX, etc. Make countless references to games like Sonic the Hedgehog (“Lets juice !”, etc)

Not my thing, but sure. That could have been really neat. Seems like an odd thing to complain based solely on what ifs.

Instead of mirror images give them some kind of crazy dash racial in-line with goblin rocket-jump or the worgen sprint (but actually good).

I’m sure you enjoy both of those racials, but personally I absolutely hate them. Plus I’m not sure either of those really help in endgame do they?

Further I can honestly say the mirror images have been insanely useful for me as I leveled up. They’re instant aggro dumps.

Don’t confuse work with care. They were definitely a lot of work , but no real care went into their conceptualization.

I truly feel for the dev who had to cut the legs off of all of the pants in the game.

Lots of work.

Zero value.

I get the distinct impression you have no idea what goes into making character models.

All five of you.

There are far more than Five of us.

Also, if they ever fix them, you get to be a hipster about it.

Eh. I’ll take it. Eventually folk will play em without all this hate around and many will wander back to them, realize they like them, and wonder why they were ever against Mechagnomes. lol

Again, and nobody plays kul’tirans so all that work…for nothing.

It’s not about how much work goes in. It’s about how much benefit you get from doing it. They worked hard, but not smart.

From your perspective I suppose. I see many Kul’Tirans and I have seen many Mechagnomes while leveling. On the whole I’m not bothered by being fewer in number, nor can I say with any clarity if that really means people don’t appreciate them.

I do so a few regulars in these threads complaining about such races and they’re almost always the same group.

Check any leaderboard. Any of them. Any of blizzard’s leaderboards, any of the boards at RaiderIO, or wowprogress. They all paint the same picture: The alliance is dying.

Ask anyone who recruits for mythic or heroic raiding guilds, or for organized PvP guilds. You’ll get the same answer from all of them .

The alliance is dying.

I have to this day not found any leaderboards that tell me the Alliance is dying. I have seen mods that take note of the players around them and their races and put that up as statistics, and I see the continuing trend of raiding guilds going where the raiders are. I still get my groups done, I still see my fellow Alliance players.

I also see a drop-off coinciding with late patch and the slow moving into a new expansion droughts that are common.

Again, neither the Kul’tirans nor the Mechagnomes could save the alliance. But the both of them being failures definitely doesn’t help.

Even taking into account Horde AR’s I don’t see this as a thing that will ever save the Alliance. New Races aren’t the thing we need. That balance was tipped back in Pandaria and has never recovered.

They also have a massive population of players playing them. They’re the second most popular race in the Horde behind Blood Elves.

What I said is still true. They have little going for them. Once their initial push dies down they’ll trickle back down in numbers. They are clearly popular though, I won’t contend that.

There’s a difference between saying the devs need to write better lore, and using the lore to justify something else (like trying to use lore to prove how mechagnomes are NOT a failure of an allied race, when nobody plays them in spite of them having one of the most ridiculously easy unlocks to earn).

I didn’t use the lore to prove that they were not a failure. I used it to explain why they’d likely go Alliance. I also said they have good lore. An opinion you simply don’t share with me.

Lol only a few people like to play them and you have to defend yourself for your embarrassing choice.

You see its when you claim its an embarrassing choice to play a Mechagnome that you come off as a bit of a dick.

It doesn’t help your stated cause. Its just being mean to another player, for no reason. lol

No one likes these scrap limbed beta derps. Just like how no one likes the OG derps either.

See this is the same. Its just being a jerk for no real reason except to be a jerk.

If your argument depends on the skeleton on a 3d character, your argument is running on fumes.
Look, we get it, you have to defend your choice, but SKELETON? THAT is your defense?
LOLOL

It had to do with what he was talking about. Didn’t really think I’d need to explain that.

And what am I defending? I was sharing my opinions on the opinions he brought up.

[Kéybøàrd-bleeding-hollow]

Oh I beg to differ. You’d be surprise just how much influence a single person can have over others. Words can be very very powerful. Let me give you a quick example. Lets say that Sethrak community was always pleasant and kind of Mechagnome fans and never trashed or derided us, there would perhaps be more support for Sethrak and a much more favorably opinion of both them and Mechagnomes. We really shouldn’t be fighting or trying to outcompete each other. Non of us have any say over what allied races are anyway.

[Vasdin-area-52]

There are far more than Five of us.

Alright. I’ll admit, I’m being mean about it. Mechagnomes are actually super popular.

There have to be, what. Seven? Eight? Twelve of you?

Look, don’t assume I’m attacking you just because your chosen race isn’t popular. Because what I’m saying is that people like you deserve better treatment from the devs.

Mechagnomes should have been ten shades of awesome on a stick.

But be honest.

They’re not. Like gnomes they’re extremely unpopular. This is a provable fact. Provable by simply logging into any high-pop alliance server and taking a look around.

Mechagnomes failed as an allied race. You should be able to admit this even though you have taken a liking to them.

[Kéybøàrd-bleeding-hollow]

Maybe the problem was Vulpera. All of the past allied races have been reskins of some kind. Vulpera was the only one that wasn’t an offshoot and hence the odd one out. I am inclined to point at the odd one out as the problem.

[Coaxial-draenor]

Alright. I’ll admit, I’m being mean about it. Mechagnomes are actually super popular .

There have to be, what. Seven? Eight? Twelve of you?

Look, don’t assume I’m attacking you just because your chosen race isn’t popular. Because what I’m saying is that people like you deserve better treatment from the devs.

Mechagnomes should have been ten shades of awesome on a stick.

But be honest.

They’re not. Like gnomes they’re extremely unpopular. This is a provable fact . Provable by simply logging into any high-pop alliance server and taking a look around .

Mechagnomes failed as an allied race. You should be able to admit this even though you have taken a liking to them.

No I get where you are coming from. I do not share the same opinion. That is all. Aside from a few little bits of your talking points, you shared your opinion. I contend that opinion. That is all. I have no ill will towards you.

I do have an issue with those who attack the players of Mechagnomes because they themselves do not like them. Its being a dick. Its unwarranted and is childish.

And I am up to around 68 Mechagnomes I have encountered while leveling. Not a huge amount but given I’m one person it stands to reason that there are many many more of us.

[Vasdin-area-52]

I do have an issue with those who attack the players of Mechagnomes because they themselves do not like them. Its being a dick. Its unwarranted and is childish.

The only people who deserve to be attacked for playing a race are blood elves. And I think everyone can agree on that

And I am up to around 68 Mechagnomes I have encountered while leveling. Not a huge amount but given I’m one person it stands to reason that there are many many more of us.

But none at the level cap.

Meanwhile, Vulpera are the second most popular race in the Horde.

Under normal circumstances, Mechagnomes would have been fine. However, considering what’s happening to the alliance right now (even beyond the usual end-of-expansion exodus) they needed better.

No, better ARs won’t save the alliance. However, that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t help. And the last thing the alliance needs is for things to get worse.

[Zael-runetotem]

See this is the same. Its just being a jerk for no real reason except to be a jerk.

I would agree with you about me being a jerk, but you playing the least respected race makes any doubt about my statement disappear. Lets just face it, no one likes gnomes.

[Coaxial-draenor]

But none at the level cap.

About ten of the ones I mentioned were level capped. Heck one of my guilds officers race changed to one and hes max level. They are there.

Under normal circumstances, Mechagnomes would have been fine. However, considering what’s happening to the alliance right now (even beyond the usual end-of-expansion exodus) they needed better.

Mechagnomes were fine. Whats happening to the Alliance has nothing to do with them. If its even happening at all.

I would agree with you about me being a jerk, but you playing the least respected race makes any doubt about my statement disappear. Lets just face it, no one likes gnomes.

I like Gnomes, theres entire discords for them, and entire thread. You are welcome to dislike gnomes, of course, all you want but that doesn’t mean no one likes them.

[Failadin-arathor]

My first character was a gnome rogue. I like gnomes. I’m happy for people that like mechagnomes.

But for the vast majority of players, particularly alliance biased players mechagnomes represent every horde favoritism meme rolled into on giant ball of for the horde.

When they do the next allied race alliance need to get something awesome and horde need to get a sentient paper bag

[Zael-runetotem]

What I mean is that no one seriously likes gnomes. The only people who play gnomes play them because they are derpy. They want to look funny and be laughed at. Psychology is psychology.

[Coaxial-draenor]

Some maybe. I play my gnome to have a spellcaster who’s often thought of as weak and goofy but isn’t. Lol.

I play this guy because his race is tough and his mechs (my pets) are devices he works on to best the threats to his people.

Not all of them are played to be derpy.

You must think rather poorly of goblins too then I’d bet.

[Zael-runetotem]

No, I actually don’t think poorly of goblins. They are a genuinely interesting race. I’m not against short races, just gnomes. Their only redeeming quality is at how easily one can laugh at them.

[Coaxial-draenor]

Well, it’s your opinion then I suppose. shrug

[Zael-runetotem]

I’d say its the vast majority of peoples opinions, seeing as how much hate gnomes and junker gnomes get, but who am I to say what people think.
shrug

[Coaxial-draenor]

Those who hate tend to do so much louder than those who don’t.

It’s a common issue on these forums.

[Purplelime-frostmourne (Purplelime)]

Pretty common knowledge that the majority of the player base was unhappy with mechagnomes, especially when horde got vulpera.

https://i.imgur.com/cQCW3qV.png

[Zael-runetotem]

I wouldn’t say it is an issue at all. We are hard wired to want to share our negative experiences or distastes with our fellow peoples to warn them about such things that they should avoid.

People are much more likely to share a negative experience over a positive one, and are also going to share negative experiences with more people than they would share positive experiences. This is so that we can help out our fellow peoples, and is a good safety protocol written into our DNA.

You can argue with me all you want over the minor details, but the Psychology doesn’t change.

[Coaxial-draenor]

Pretty common knowledge that the majority of the player base was unhappy with mechagnomes, especially when horde got vulpera.

https://i.imgur.com/cQCW3qV.png

Those statistics are from a mod that is wildly inaccurate. It also doesn’t really prove satisfaction over dissatisfaction. The High Elf Thread went over this a couple times too. lol

I wouldn’t say it is an issue at all. We are hard wired to want to share our negative experiences or distastes with our fellow peoples to warn them about such things that they should avoid.

People are much more likely to share a negative experience over a positive one, and are also going to share negative experiences with more people than they would share positive experiences. This is so that we can help out our fellow peoples, and is a good safety protocol written into our DNA.

You can argue with me all you want over the minor details, but the Psychology doesn’t change.

I’m not doubting the psychology… In fact I technically agreed with you. The loudest are the ones who will be dissatisfied. It doesn’t however mean they’re the majority… or that the majority cares. Whether or not someone is playing a Mechagnome doesn’t tell you how they feel about them.

[Zael-runetotem]

What this implies though is that the loudest are loud for a reason. They are loud because there is a clear issue at hand. Ever heard of the squeaky wheel gets the oil?

[Purplelime-frostmourne (Purplelime)]

Those statistics are from a mod that is wildly inaccurate. It also doesn’t really prove satisfaction over dissatisfaction. The High Elf Thread went over this a couple times too. lol

Only if you’re comparing horde vs alliance because data is taken on a server by server basis and some aren’t counted, strictly looking at percentages for 38k alliance counted, mechagnomes are only 600, 1% of alliance, while vulpera are 6% of horde.