There will always be a % of the community that will complain. Especially here. As far as grinding, the only necessities are renown and torghast. That’s it, the tiniest amount of chores per week. How people can find this upsetting is insane to me.
Except if Blizzard were to remove a level or two from each torghast run, I would not be even slightly upset. 
You literally quoted me.
For future reference, everyone can see that you edited your post. That orange crayon at the top right with the number next to it indicates to everyone how many times your post has been edited.
You would have been less embarrassed if you had simply stopped responding. It’s ok, everyone makes mistakes.
I made 0 mentions of flying.
He edited out a gaff where he came at me but was spectacularly, embarrassingly wrong and accidentally left the tag of your post where he said something else in response to you.
I have several posts that were auto edited by blizzard with the same indicator.
But ok. You know everything.
You’re just digging deeper.
By setting facts? Maybe it’s mobile.
I’ve had a lot of issues with quoting working improperly lately
See the above post? Doesn’t say it was edited?
I didn’t do that. I quoted you, and blizzard removed it.
Why I don’t know.
You are claiming that it got auto-edited. It only auto-edits if you quote the previous post in its entirety.
If you quoted the immediately previous post, then I had said two posts before that that Warlocks could summon.
So your story fell apart.
Either it’s impossible that it auto-edited because you were responding to a further up post, in which case you edited out an embarrassing mistake.
OR
It did auto-edit, but you didn’t realize I had already literally said the thing you tried to insult me about.
Which one would you like to admit to?
P.S. Now is the time to stop talking. You made this so much harder on yourself.
I was not responding to your post where you mentioned warlock summons. (That came after).
I was responding to the one before it.
Clearly.
I’m not sure why this effects you so much.
Then it couldn’t have auto-edited. It only auto-edits if you quote the entirety of the immediately previous post.
I don’t know why you can’t admit you said something silly.
Testing to see if you’d quote logic works… because I’m fairly certain it doesn’t
Look, a whole quote. No edits.
You do need to do the 1000 anima quest once a week in order to have the reown for your story progression, though. So I wouldn’t call it not needed at all, lol
Maybe my phone is just going ballistic. Did the same thing [quote=“Darien-tichondrius, post:145, topic:811541”]
Look, a whole quote. No edits.
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Must be nice. My quotes keep breaking. Rip.
Not grindy…just timegated and there are some areas of unbalanced deving causing issues with injoyment of content. I want to like sl as a whole but in honest i have other games peeking my interest as well as a girlfriend that is in need of more attentions so wow is starting to loose out in my interest.
Yeah, but it’s also so wildly easy to do that I’m prepared to hit anyone who tries to call it a grind with a straight face. The world boss and two dungeon quests alone practically complete the thing for you. Throw in an epic WQ if one is available and you’ve go all 1000 anima in about an hour.
But if someone really loathes having to gather anima that badly and don’t mind taking it slower, they can still technically skip gathering the anima and still see the entire Covenant story eventually. Still don’t know why someone would do that, since as I’ve laid out it’s incredibly easy to finish the entire quest in the span of an hour or two, but people choose the strangest hills to die upon.
It’s stupid easy to get anima, like a few world quests and you’re done for the week, I personally don’t like getting behind so I try to do it as fast as possible, but for other people I suppose I can see it being… a grind? Maybe?
But yeah, you can 100% skip that and then just collect your souls in the Maw and you’ll eventually see the whole story, just much, much later.
Are you talking about the 1000 anima quest? Or just grinding for cosmetics/sanctum upgrades. They’re pretty distinct in terms of reward and grind. I only mention it because if it is the former, im in full and total agreement. Its laughably easy. Here’s the recipe:
1* World boss kill (350 anima).
1* rare quest (250 anima - also usually part of your renown grind on reset)
1* calling (3 * 3 anima (35)).
1* world quest (at 4 * 35 anima, or 2 * 2 * 35 anima).
Chuck it all in a blender and you’re finished 2/3 of your weekly renown grinds (and have killed the world boss for the week).
Whats that? an hour?
Then do the story quest… maybe 30-40 minutes.
Then do your 2 torghast runs (30 to 45 minutes each).
Then your weeklies from venari (20-30 mins).
If youre a masochist and just want random 500 rep, your 2 dungeon quests (an hour).
And finally, your LFR wing/s: 30 mns/wing.
There you go. Thats your content done for the week. The rest of it is 1000% optional.
Yes it is.
But then agian what content is behind the timegated? Unless you love WoW lore to the core you arent losing much.
There is stuff timegated such as pvp upgrade and glyphs(conduits) but thats pretty much about it.
Lets be frank here ok? half the forums have been calling SL grindy.
getting 1k anima is hardly grindy still, if you kill the world boss and do the elite quest you get instant 500 anima. The rest is pretty fast if you spam dg and bgs
I think the major issue would be the fact that player’s demands onto other players to join active groups would be the fact said groups would demand renow 40 to do a m0.
Ya thats true. We should at the very least recieve appropiate anima rewads for the key level and a currency to work towards some gear and cosmetics. Or just some gear.
When WoW wasn’t about it?
You can put RP if you want wow still has a very active RP pop.
Then why you play classic? people are literally doing gdkp runs with gold bought from bots.
Care to say which one? I am honest when i say most SP games i played offers basically the same thing in their sequels.
?
Raid log. Thats literally all classic content… and grindy quests.
You can also spam premade to stomp pugs all day in pvp. But simple put classic doesnt have a lot of content.
There are more quests now than before though.
And collect 10 zhevra’s hooves by killing 40 of them wasn’t really engaging either.
Hydraxian warlords was mandatory for MC, not everybody needed to have them but some had to. Rest was optional but then again so are Reps in SL.
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that you didn’t really need to grind azerite bfa
Thats a straight up lie though. You had to grind azerite, a lot of azerite till 8.2 came out. You dont need to grind maw, all it offers for your character are bad socket gems, if you get all the sockets for all your gear you get +2% in the stat you choose basically, it is pretty optional. Torghast can be done in 1 hour per week. Azerite demanded over 8 hours/week.
You still needed azerite to progress even in 8.3 a lot of it.
Getting though the campaing didnt offer all the azerite you needed not even at last phase of 8.3. Anima requires 2 hours of weekly gameplay or much less.
Objectively BfA grind was truly too much.
its not though, i find it fun. Different stuff for different folks, although honestly soul ash should have other sources besides torghast.
Thats false, unless all you did was world quests you NEEDED the azerite pwoers and they took much longer to get than any legendary in SL.
You being relativist doesnt means you have a point dude.
I jsut checked your main, you literally killed 2 bosses in LFR.
There are more casual activites in SL than BfA and legion had though. Professions alone makes ton of gold and doesnt require any hardcore activity.
That doesnt exist. Either devs gate it or the community gates it. Community standarts tend to be a lot higher. Raider IO is a prime example.
Flying. It made your char do everything faster therefore get powerful faster. Pretty straightforward unless you can create time i think there is no arguing about that.
Well thats pretty much on you. Plenty to do aside that.
Still not grindy. Takes 2 hours tops weekly, if you are slow.
It is not.
By the end of next week all gated content will be basically one glyph and cosmetics.
How is that massive?
Like what? What could you do before raid, dg and pvp? Achievments?
Ya lets create a tournament by the endless giant zombie army.
That place is the epythome of dumbness. It was supposed to be in crystalsong forest but they gave up on that.
He sounds overly sensible, dont dabble on that very much
You will be 1 week behind.
Thats literally the difference as story goes.