Why do Horde races want to be in the horde?

Oh I’d be salty forever if naga went alliance and I’ll unreasonably blame you for it forever if that happened.

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We know who you were describing you added a lot details to identify him for anyone who has heard or know of him. Details about himself he has disclosed

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Unfortunately this goes both ways. Some people hear a comment about Wrathion smelling like spices and sweat and think it is simply referring to common scents from the area he lives in. Others see it as a racist attack. Unless people are willing to take a few minutes and genuinely talk about their views to try and understand others, without trying to place blame, there is no way to “win” things like this. It sucks.

You’d have to prove that Renautus was directly referencing him in that post in order for the mods to act on the post itself or ban Renautus.

Given that his name is not mentioned. That would be extremely difficult. If Renautus had mentioned him by name, that would be different. Then that would be grounds for a flag. But as I said, there’s nothing in that post that is rule breaking. So it basically comes down to “I don’t like this post, flag it and get them banned.”

Seeing as they did not mention you by name, or reply to you directly, then unfortunately no, it’s not.

Been on these forums, actively posting since Vanilla. I know how this whole mess of a system works. If Renautus had mentioned you directly, replied to you about it, or worded that post in any way that it could constitute as attacking you, then that would be considered against the rules, but they didn’t do any of those things.

At best (at least for you and those who flagged the post) Blizzard will delete the post, but Renautus will not catch a ban. At worst? Because you incited people to mass report on your Twitter feed, you’ll catch a ban for harassing them. You might/will probably think that’s incredibly unfair, but unfortunately that’s how the cookie crumbles on these forums.

Her Twitter is evidence enough, she’s been posting about us and inventing stories for weeks now

She’s been banned MULTIPLE TIMES from the forums due to her harassing me on the story forum

There’s evidence enough in their records

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I don’t know what you are talking about, he and I only ever talked a couple times and he’s never told me anything about himself.

And there’s ample evidence on your Twitter of slandering MY name, as well as harassment, verbal abuse, and inciting of violence.I’m sure if someone where to weigh your harassmentof me vs my comments about you, one would find there were severely off balanced.

Renautus you’d have to delete your whole Twitter immediately for anyone to believe that since you want to play games

Besides Blizzard already knows all the lies you spread as Mithonic and Renautus from MANY forum bans

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As far as I can recall, Baal is the only person here who has talked about getting a nose job on the story forum. And he’s talked about his father being a doctor before, too.

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If anything, they might get banned for account action evasion, if another account of theirs is actively suspended while they’re replying here.

That’s really the best shot you’ve got at them getting banned. It sucks, but as I said, that’s how the cookie crumbles. The rules of the forums are not always applied fairly. I should not be saying this, because it’s also bannable, but I myself have been banned for saying something that was constituted as harassment, even though I personally didn’t think I was doing anything wrong.

Honestly? The best thing you can do is block and move on. Don’t respond to their threads, don’t highlight what they’re doing, don’t ask your followers to mass flag posts. The more attention you give to people you claim are harassing you, the more negative attention you’ll get from said people. It’s a classic bullying tactic. All you’re doing is feeding the fire with gasoline.

Hell, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation at all and we’d still be talking about Dragon Aspects if you hadn’t made that Twitter post encouraging your followers who have access to the WoW forum to flag their post.

It’s also clear from this point her personal attacks started like people acting like it’s otherwise are doing so on purpose but either way they also aren’t mods so I guess they can speculate on how they want to obfuscate how things weren’t about one individual all day long if they want but it doesn’t change what everyone else can clearly see. Spanning multiple threads.

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Stop trying to appear as a victim.

It wont help you. You may not have said his name, but you knew what you did. You are here to incordiate him, annoy him and harass him.

Stop.

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Renautus may have mentioned Baal in other posts, but not the flagged one, which really is the important thing, because the flagged one is what Blizzard is going to act on, not the unflagged ones.

Honestly if you flagged that one, then that would probably result in account action, since that could be seen as defamatory posting.

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Unfortunately, I’m afraid Carhagen may be right about how forum moderation works. You’d need a moderator who reads this forum regularly and remembers the regulars in order to pick up on stuff like this; someone who’s only going through flagged posts because a quota is bearing down on them will lack the context to understand why certain rules are being broken, or else we wouldn’t see Erevien coming back so many times.

Nah historically Renautus gets all her posts deleted regardless if they were flagged or not when she has a meltdown like this, followed by an extensive ban

It’s why she’s currently evading a ban on her main account, for this exact same reason

Erevien being allowed back I can only assume is because, while an IRL far right extremist, in the wow community he’s basically The Box Ghost

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I agree with just blocking people.

Moderation on this forum is opaque and inconsistent. As a result, it is also mostly useless.

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Mhm, I block folks that I don’t want to interact with, and for the most part I don’t respond to or mention them at all.

I dealt with bullies and harassment through most of my life, and if there’s one lesson I picked up on from everything, it’s that the moment you give the bully/harasser attention, that just feeds them and encourages them to act against you even more. You can’t ‘shame’ a bully/harasser into stopping. They’ll just keep bullying/harassing. (exception being if the courts and justice system get involved, although even that can be hit or miss).

If you want to put out a fire, the safest way to do that is to deny it fuel.

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In the tweet I linked where he was inciting people to report me, he used duhumanizing hate speech.

Where I live in Canada, cyberbullying and hate speech is a crime under the Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms, it falls under our Criminal Code. When he attatches his real name to those tweets he can be charged with a criminal offense resulting in jail time.

And before, anyone points out that Cyberbullying in Canada won’t affect someone who is a US citizen, USA also considers cyberbullying a crime

Cyberstalking is a criminal offense under American anti-stalking, slander, and harassment laws. A conviction can result in a restraining order, probation, or criminal penalties against the assailant, including jail.

another council
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Not sure other what other suggestions work . It’s the best option for the Black Flight, considering how prone to corruption their flight is