The Horde does have positive reasons to stick together. The Alliance has told them to piss off, but the races of the Horde have consistently/continually helped each other since then. The Forsaken helped the Elves defend Quel’thalas, the Darkspear helped the Elves fight off the Zandalari-backed Amani, the orcs have helped defend Mulgore/reinforce the Southern Barrens against the Alliance, etcetera.
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Since you seem to be under the impression I did, who do you think it was? I’m honestly morbidly curious
Can you explain how you’ve come to deterimine who is and isn’t a PoC based on the information available here?
WoW avatars?
Baal mentioned he was and I’m simply trusting his judgement on this. He seems intelligent and his posts are usually well thought out from what I’ve seen
So you are basing your entire opinion on what one person says?
We’ve had multiple people say it was racist. And it does come off as pretty racist. Though as I said, I doubt that was their intention, but it’s worded really poorly
So you don’t have the media literacy skills to determine if something is racist?
What of he’s a PoC and still racist? not reverse racism, like actually racist. has bigoted racial opinions. Would you still trust his word? What if they were a chauvinist? or a white supremicist?
Anyone can be radicalized.
We had a whole conversation about why it was racist due to its poor wording. And considering I was one of the people who caught on to the ugly wording of the phrase being used, I’d say I’m quite literate.
Not that I need some stranger to insinuate otherwise.
yeah and any contradictory opinion was absolutely squashed.
purpetuating a negative stereotype that Wrathion smells because he’s brown is maliciously racist and inaccurate and instead of trying to debunk that stereotype, this entire discourse has just perpetuated that stereotype and microagression.
The Niffen are literally telling him he smells expensive, “expensive oils and spices.” that’s not a negative, he smells good.
He literally says Wrathion smells of Spices and Flop Sweat. That’s not saying he smells good. At all. Take it up with blizzard for their poor writing skills.
It’s racist, again, likely not intentional on their part. But until it’s changed, it’s ugly how it’s worded. Nobody but blizz is using these stereotypes.
Instead of wasting everyone’s time picking fights on the internet, try to help by keeping Blizz honest when they make mistakes like this
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All. People. Sweat.
The context of the scene is stressful for Wrathion. People sweat when they are stressed.
Blizz screwed up. As it stands, the wording of the quote has a racist subtext. We can point it out to them and hopefully they word it better before release, or you can continue wasting everyone’s time.
The choice is yours really.
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The horde built reasons to be together. They started with shared persecution and built a society from that. Not without its flaws and failings and flashpoints of course, but still.
The strength of the Horde Narrative is the “found family” aspect of it. It’s one of the best and most expansive examples of the “Ragtag Band Of Misfits” trope. A bunch of weirdoes and unwanteds forced together who have to build something from nothing.
The failing of the last many expansions is that this concept has been discarded in favor of turning the horde into Red Alliance; just a military organization devoid of deeper meaning or tradition or relations, existing for no reason other than to make war on The Other Team. It HAS lacked any intra-faction narrative for a while now beyond just being Green Spiky Military Fantasy, and that’s pretty damn bad.
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Yeah, that’s my point, they’ve neglected the positive side of the horde for way too long
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What if they choose not to change it?
It was, in WC 1 and 2 only. But the Horde wasn’t designed to be the “bad guys” in WC3 or WoW. Antagonist for the Alliance, sure. But the Alliance was also designed to be the antagonists for the Horde in those games.
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Spices smell good. And it says there’s just a hint of flop sweat, probably something no one except a niffen would notice. Most people would only notice the spicy perfume.
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Checkpvp states that you are Shasani another poster with 3k+ posts.
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Exactly this.
Niffen have extremely sensitive noses, which makes sense, they’re essentially mole-people. They could probably pick up on scents that everyone else fails to notice. Additionally ‘Flop Sweat’ is the type of sweat that you get from being in a position of nervousness and is extremely common when one has a fear of failure.
A fear of failure of living up to the legacy that he was so sure was his before Sabellian showed up with all his draconic allies and gave him legitimate competition for the role of Aspect of the Black Dragonflight perhaps.
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I always feel like I’ve generally seen flop sweat used in a way that implies a bit of humor. Like an anime sweat drop. Like in a sitcom when someone’s juggling two very different events at once and hoping nobody notices what they’re doing. Or having your rival explain how no, that box was a distraction and the real eggs are here now right after you played your master plan to tattle tale to the mommy dragon about how the mean older dragon broke all the eggs and you thought he was going to be in so much trouble but noooo.