Why do Horde get special treatment?

[Kandlejack-grobbulus]

I would assume most blizzard employees play horde and if they loose 1 game of AV in a month they complain to their supervisors that the devs need to totally nerf the alliance side of things. gtfo blizzard.

It must be tough to live with this heavy of a victim complex, I truly feel bad for you.

[Holymirax-ashkandi]

when they rolled out bg’s early.

Did they take away the ability to corpse camp? No. Are they actively trying to take away alliance premades? Yes.

[Suraknar-deviate-delight]

Alliance needs to relearn how to play and win AV.

I am sorry, but the way Alliance plays AV right now is pitiful. Horde Pugs it and wins, so can Alliance.

The alliance needs to relearn how to win AV:

How to Win AV

And AV needs to be shaped for the Current Reality:

History of AV

[Pintero-moon-guard (Pintero)]

Free transfer ruined a lot of faction balance on a lot of servers. Then Paid ones came in hurting in more that’s why a lot of these servers are 15/10 A The best thing to do is to make them 0/100 Horde not in a spiteful way, but in a way Blizzard is FORCED to deal with it.

I’m a long time player on horde I’m ally for Classic. The biggest problem is horde are overwhelmingly more popular faction on a majority of servers and globally, also they’re more active in a PVP sense. That’s why there ques are so long.

[Fiftyzug-heartseeker]

I will say that it amuses me how right off the gate, when alliance found a loophole after the premade fix, they were posting and gloating on the forums everywhere.

Now that the welfare rankers find themselves honor starved, its all cry.

[Warear-bigglesworth]

Buddy look around you, most of the alliance is not even playing, they are afking their rep and honor points while they play another game. Cant give strategy to people that are not even looking at their screen.

[Suraknar-deviate-delight]

I am sorry but I do not suffer from defeatist Attitude Syndrome. The strategy is here nevertheless, sooner or later people will read digest and try it, once they are fed up losing and then will start winning again

[Warear-bigglesworth]

They are not fed up losing because they are afk.

[Suraknar-deviate-delight]

That is not true. In all the games I played the most I saw (and reported AFK, just in case it actually does something), was 6 people.

[Warear-bigglesworth]

Then you aren’t paying enough attention. They dont just sit in the cave any more, they rush out and die and then sit in the grave yard that the horde is camping.

[Suraknar-deviate-delight]

I am not saying that it is not a problem. I specified this in the OP.

I think that it is IMPERATIVE that Blizzard Developers find a solution and address the AFK/Bot issues.

In the mean time the rest of us can start Playing AV with the winning strategy and prepare and start slowly turning the tables.

Just because there are AFKers it does not mean that we should not even bother playing the the Battleground well now, does it.

Why promote defeatist attitude?

[Fiftyzug-heartseeker]

Cant give strategy to people that are not even looking at their screen.

Try

/bg hey y’all seems like our nelf hunter xXLegolasXx is afk, report.

Oof that was hard wasn’t it? Horde has afkers plenty too, we kick em unless its close to end.

I know, must be hard actually taking initiative after 2 months of listening to a bunch of keks raging the premade discord.

[Futrid-sulfuras]

There is a difference when the 40 horde players are there to PvP

What exactly do the alliance think they’re there for? Collect their free pvp gear? Oh wait, this thread is about horde favoritism…

[Pintero-moon-guard (Pintero)]

You do understand we do that right? I’ve once had a pug circle around our Afkers for about 2 mins and had 7 ppl + spam him whispers. Don’t work 9/10 times.

[Warear-bigglesworth]

Yeah bud, if it was possible it wouldnt be the way it is. No one cares, and even less try. It is hard to get afkers to read what you are saying. Yes. I cant force them to look at their screen. You are also viewing this from one perspective while I play on both sides. Ally have far far far more afkers than horde, because its easier to.

[Glaive-kirtonos]

Majority of servers had the Horde corpse camping to oblivion for a solid month after the release of phase 2, causing people to quit the game and making the world virtually unplayable, yet the Horde came out of it unscathed.

Now the Alliance can’t even queue as a premade without the Horde QQing and Blizzard jumping in to hold their hands.

Where was The Alliance’s support during the initial release of phase 2?

#Neverforgetbrm2019

I don’t know.

The horde are a collection of demon-corrupted alien invaders and necromantic abominations.

Somehow that’s good.

[Goldyloc-thunderfury]

If world PvP were being done under exploitative conditions, I’m sure Blizzard would have responded to it.

The same guys exploiting in Gadge are still there exploiting line of sight and standing on top of building killing everyone risk free.

[Zohkar-mankrik]

There is a difference when the 40 horde players are there to PvP and the people who don’t have already left the queue for being too long. Alliance players join for PvE and rep, so they farm and afk freely. You really can’t compare 40 horde pugs to 40 alliance pugs due to the difference in objective when they join. 10 PvP players on alliance can’t carry 30 pugs. We proved that we we could still use premades. Now it gets worse. Roll alliance for an opportunity to try to get an alliance pug team to win in AV. You’ll go back horde after one battle.

Understandable, but regardless, they need to consider they joined a BG that has both PvE and PvP components. Both sides can do the objectives, and both sides can do their best to denie the opposing side from doing them. I’ve never done the North mine objective because as a Resto Shaman it’s jut not going to happen (turn in 10 items form that mine).

That said, I am glad Alliance no longer start undermanned. However I do not think it’s right that one side who has better queue times and cherry picked teams is allow to abuse the system and cause the side that doesn’t to guarantee a loss. It should be equal 50 / 50 which unfortunately because Horde teams are use to 39 other random people in the group achieve better win ratio.

WsG should be for premade and AV for Pugs or 5 mans. Unless blizzard wants to add a solo or group queue or mercenary mode. Heck, changing the map which moves the Horde cave south would also solve some people complaints but just make fighting premade at this current junction not worth it at all.

[Drunkpunk-bigglesworth]

But they do respond to it. Report them and if a GM catches them, they’ll warn them about it or suspend them. And that’s not something that is faction specific, is it? I’ve certainly been killed there myself by Alliance players. This doesn’t fit into the “special treatment” narrative.

[Fenrir-dethecus]

Not going to lie played horde all the way through retail and shouted down any thread about Horde bias , but after playing Alliance here at the start of classic I can confirm you guys were right all along Blizzard really does hate the alliance