Why do Alliance try every thing in the book to gain an unfair advantage in PvP?

Your faction gets 3 free iWin buttons and is currently exploiting back door mechanics EVERY SINGLE GAME.
You are an idiot. Carry on.

I remember the days when the internet was filled with integrity! Just bible passages and kitten videos. Why can’t we just go back to that.

Horde have been doing it since AV released, what’s your excuse?

Ah yeah, I forgot how much skill is needed to gank Alliance at flight paths and farm Alliance at a graveyard 30H vs 20A. You have no room to talk about empty titles. Ask Blizzard why speed winning AV awards more honor than taking objectives. I would like it if objectives gave so much more honor that they could not be ignored. People are going to play to min max. Horde would be doing the same exact thing if the roles were reversed and they were the less numerous faction. Don’t pretend you wouldn’t.

you mean wotf and stun immunity?

Those were the days, ah serenity.

Blizz crashed the party with their ham-handed #nochanges waffling. Sad trombone.

It all started when Blizzard allowed that music video to be made in their game. Remember… The internet is for p0rn!

Because the PvP of this game is garbage but there’s no other content to do so to make it less painful they find ways to go around it.

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Actually I will pretend just that. Im heartseeker horde since launch and been actively pvping since p1, outnumberred all the time.

You, on the other hand, have access to welfare ranking and avoid pvp. Reminds me of spoiled children getting a brand new car at 16 without ever working for it.

Actually, that is probably the perfect analogy for it.

Come play Alliance and youll understand why they do what they do. Its rough in AV. Blizzards catering to Horde all these years has deformed the balance between the two factions.

You know, whatever else these premades are doing it’s not avoiding PvP. They by definition can’t do that unless the Horde in the BG avoid THEM.

Alliance side it’s rare man, they’re MOSTLY (not all) gear driven and don’t participate for the PVP, but because loot is all they’re after.

Which race is immune to stuns?

The “unfair advantage” alliance is seeking is merely communicating with a couple other players in the same BG. There is no way to coordinate who goes in what, it’s just a bunch of random people thrown in the same BG, who then go to the same discord channel and communicate.

Horde can do the SAME exact thing, it’s just easier because your queues are so much slower. Just set up a discord with a room for every bg, and when your bg pops, go to that room in discord. You now can communicate with a handful of people in the same bg, just like alliance.

It’s not a premade. It’s not x number of tanks, x number of healers, x numbers of stealthers, all going into the same exact bg. It’s just people in the same BG talking to each other.

This hurts absolutely no one, and is completely in the spirit of EVERYTHING blizzard is trying to accomplish with an MMORPG- a massively multiplayer online rpg where you have to group to accomplish anything and everything. Unless you are suggesting people be banned for being in discord when they world pvp, do world bosses, or raid MC and BWL, this is fundamentally no different. If you want a game where you can do everything solo, there already is an iteration of retail where you can do everything solo. It’s called retail.

The old “premades” were actual premades of sort, with set numbers of healers and tanks and dps, etc., and people dropping queue if those were not reached. The old premades also had the effect of really screwing alliance pugs.

This hurts no one. The only impact is that alliance now has an average chance of breaking the structural issues pertaining to the chokepoint at stonehearth gy. If you are horde and whining about this current meta, what you are basically saying is that what you want from AV is to go in and curbjaw completely unorganized groups and face no real pvp. At least be honest about it.

Blizzard will not do anything about this. Deal.

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No one has exploited anything though. The thing Alliance did that was wrong was kick other Allies from groups unduly, and that got fixed.

Premading and coordinating over a voice program is not an exploit and never has been.

Exploit does not mean “Thing I dont like.”.

Half the comments from alliance are justifying cheating and xploits because horde did pvp on pvp realms … meanwhile the 90% that didn’t play on exclusive pvp servers are scratching head saying what are you talking about … One little kids experience on a pvp server of getting ganked all day ( note >> that’s what happens on pvp servers) DOESN"T MAKE OK or justify cheating or manipulating the game mechanics! GROW UP!@ Y

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I disagree. At this point in WOW decades we know that WOW added Rated Battlegrounds exclusive to the people that wanted to play at higher levels… In Classic wow that option was never exclusive nor should it ever be in this ranking system ! PERIOD!

Yeah man, that’s all it is. 30-40 Alliance, Marshall and higher in rank, all just “happened” to join the same AV and hopped in a discord channel. And the whistleblower just “happened” to fill out his complaint using legal prose that is on par with what a 30-year expert would use. *Wink Wink.

Ok so you got ganked like I do on my server. In AV there is no excuse for Horde camping GYs to farm HKs and not actually play AV the way it was designed to be played.

How do you still not understand? Are you intentionally missing the point?

Alliance have instant queues which allow premades to exist. Rankers will find a way to gain the most honor they can per hour so they can get their rank. They don’t care about what you care about. Imagine thinking everyone should play the game the way you want them to and not the way they want to. Ironic, talking about being spoiled when you want everything tailored to your desires.

If the Alliance want to compete for rank they either premade or they don’t rank. Who are you to tell someone to stop playing the game if their goal is ranking?

Get off your high horse made of lies and hypocrisy.

If Horde had instant queues they would be doing the same exact thing.

READY NORMAL PEOPLE?!