Why did we get fat humans?

Do you know how many carbs are in those things?! Definitely not simply a ‘High fat food’ though they contain fat from being fried.

This would be considered a major and obvious hole in your argument

the reason why you dont see many sources claiming “high fats” are healthy for people is the same reason you don’t see “high carbs” being healthy or “high protein”.

Nutrition is a balance, anytime you eat excessive amounts of nutrient A it is no longer healthy. Too much fat soluble vitamins and you get adverse effects. Too much potassium and sodium and your BP goes up, too little and your muscles/heart have issues. Too little water you die, drink too much water you die.
Not eating fiber you can’t poo, eat too much fiber and you can get a bowel obstruction

See the trend?

High fats are not healthy doesn’t mean there arent healthy fats in your food. A diet consisting of 90% protein is not advised, eating a diet high in carbs is generally not good for your blood sugar.

In moderation.
Too much oxygen will kill you too

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And the appropriate information was provided. Disagree if you like, it’s there. There’s plenty of people who thought their diet and lifestyle was just fine…until it caught up with them permanently.

There’s probably enough clogged arteries to reach from here to the edge of our solar system and back due to them.

Some highlights from the article:

It is important to not solely focus on eating high-fat foods, but to include a daily variety of the allowed meats, fish, vegetables, fruits, nuts, and seeds to ensure adequate intakes of fiber, B vitamins, and minerals (iron, magnesium, zinc)—nutrients typically found in foods like whole grains that are restricted from the diet. Because whole food groups are excluded, assistance from a registered dietitian may be beneficial in creating a ketogenic diet that minimizes nutrient deficiencies.

Available research on the ketogenic diet for weight loss is still limited. Most of the studies so far have had a small number of participants, were short-term (12 weeks or less), and did not include control groups. A ketogenic diet has been shown to provide short-term benefits in some people including weight loss and improvements in total cholesterol, blood sugar, and blood pressure. However, these effects after one year when compared with the effects of conventional weight loss diets are not significantly different. [10]

Eliminating several food groups and the potential for unpleasant symptoms may make compliance difficult. An emphasis on foods high in saturated fat also counters recommendations from the Dietary Guidelines for Americans and the American Heart Association and may have adverse effects on blood LDL cholesterol. However, it is possible to modify the diet to emphasize foods low in saturated fat such as olive oil, avocado, nuts, seeds, and fatty fish.

A ketogenic diet may be an option for some people who have had difficulty losing weight with other methods. The exact ratio of fat, carbohydrate, and protein that is needed to achieve health benefits will vary among individuals due to their genetic makeup and body composition. Therefore, if one chooses to start a ketogenic diet, it is recommended to consult with one’s physician and a dietitian to closely monitor any biochemical changes after starting the regimen, and to create a meal plan that is tailored to one’s existing health conditions and to prevent nutritional deficiencies or other health complications. A dietitian may also provide guidance on reintroducing carbohydrates once weight loss is achieved.

A modified carbohydrate diet following the Healthy Eating Plate model may produce adequate health benefits and weight reduction in the general population.

I didn’t say there weren’t healthy fats. What I linked earlier pointed out, people in the US are not lacking in the fat consumption department and in fact, consume too much of it (the unhealthy stuff). Obviously the emphasis on other areas (fiber etc) is because those are lacking in peoples’ diets. If by some odd happenstance in the next 100 years that trend reversed and people ate too much fiber and not enough fats and were doing too much physical activity (could you even imagine?) you would see the opposite messaging.

For now, unfortunately in the first world…this is the problem. Compounded by the “positive body image” trend. If there had been something similar when we were trying to wipe out polio (“positive polio image” or something equally horrible) about a real health issue, we’d still be vaccinating children in the first world. Though thanks to anti vaxxers…who knows.

Wrong again. “Nutritionist” is not a legally-protected term. Anyone may call themselves a nutritionist. Not saying they are necessarily snake-oil salesman, but keep in the mind the title of nutritionist requires no formal education, good or otherwise.

And clearly you live in one of the areas where “a few states have no regulations for this occupation” applies.

I mean, if you actually read the information provided, you would know this.

But it’s easier to yell “wrong” I suppose.

It’s obvious he knows he’s wrong. He’s a liar. He’s blatantly misrepresenting what is said and has devolved into a troll.

He cites sources that don’t corroborate his claims. I said our ancestors evolved on a high-fat diet. The operative word being “evolved.”

Obviously, since Krispy Kreme couldn’t have existed when human being evolved their large brains, he knows perfectly well I’m not referring to doughnuts (which contain high amounts of sugar). Basically, he can’t handle being proven wrong and would far rather double down and troll than admit he’s wrong.

Nowhere did his source claim that a high-fat diet caused obesity.

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From the article I posted

One thing you have to consider is that most ‘conventional weight loss diets’ also cut out lots of excess carbohydrates that many people consume in the form of processed junk foods.

hmmm come to think of it I don’t like this quote at the current moment. Rresearch on cholesterol is a main focus point of the revelations that the sugar industry manipulated research to protect profits. That is going to be an opinion I have for awhile though, hopefully more research comes to light quickly to fix this ridiculous error.

Odd how countries that consumed lots of saturated fats/cholesterol religiously possibly had low heart disease rates prior to the huge introduction of imported junk foods. If you wanna do some counter research the one country that I’m thinking of like this was France.

You can claim that, but you would be wrong. Again, reading does wonders. Like the site that talks in detail about the requirements for the profession you handwaved away.

…you know what else “evolved?” Sarcasm…and the ability to detect it.

And of course, you keep offering the best self rebuttal:

And so, circling back to our krispy kreme sailors…it’s clear they are no longer the elite warriors of old that we knew them to be.

Someone of them have managed to avoid the temptation to join the cult of the donut and have maintained the elite navy that The Alliance so desperately needs in Azeroth’s darkest hour.

What we really need…is for those brave souls to become playable.

Preferably before jabba…err, ashavane feeds them to the rancor.

Well, there you go…cherry picking again. On your own source no less!

/smh

Because now you’re going to contend what, with this?

…and of course, source?!

Feel free to post something on that…but most developed countries have their own home grown junk food.

Good try.

You sure it wasn’t you being caught saying something unbelievably stupid because you didn’t read what was said, and trying to cover your tracks? Yeah, okay.

We all believe you.

Please refrain from discussing this topic. You are grossly misinformed, you are unable to accurately cite even your own sources, and you could only serve to misinform people who might genuinely be looking for help.

First of all it’s Harvard’s article not mine :smiley: as a lab tech for many years I tend take sources I link in arguments with a grain of salt. Especially when they’re forced because someone with claims I find not very credible demands it of me.

This is very true. I wonder when these foods became popular in countries outside of my own.

Right because the manipulated sources are going to admit that. How about you do some research yourself if you don’t like that claim. All I said was it was a focus point on revelations that are now common knowledge as they were posted by several news sources in 2016.

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This is where the following quote really comes into play:

“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” -Benjamin Franklin

Even if it comes from a “reliable source”… health information is constantly updated.

I had a lot of success switching to a higher fat lower carb diet with my weight loss, my level of exercise wasn’t significantly different either. That’s where I’m coming from.

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I could introduce you to people who have been on carnivore diets for 20 years.

There have been entire cultures that have existed solely on fatty meat who have not only lived, but thrived.

One thing we’ve never seen (and never will see) is a successful vegan culture.

But the food industry is being polluted by the processed food makers, who are suddenly promoting plants and processed food as the be-all-to-end-all. While meat is demonized as the source of all disease.

Little wonder that Dr. Robert Atkins is so vilified after his death.

Never mind that beef is more nutrient-dense than any plant, and unlike plants, contains no antinutrients.

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Oh well, this topic has been quite entertaining lol. I’m just sick of my relatives who struggle with health issues having to deal with so much misinformation throughout their lives. But that’s a part of living I suppose.

It’s a shame I’ve grown to distrust my own home’s government so much, but their “dietary advice” didn’t seem to help me out much and then to be told that their studies were manipulated by sugar industries all the way in 2016… just makes me so angry. Sadly this is only a small part of the problem my country has with credible research.

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Human males look like an average high-intensity sports athlete. Maybe the biceps are rather large but other than that they aren’t steroid infused.

Does it make sense that all humans have the same aesthetic? No… but that’s a limitation of the game.

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Does it make sense that all humans have the same aesthetic? No… but that’s a limitation of the game.

But it doesn’t have to be.

I was really hoping that Kul Tirans would, at the very least, have an option to choose between the big model and the standard human model in much the same way Orcs can choose hunched or straight-backed.

It would have set a precedent that could have opened the way for more varied body types for every race. Sadly we just got the beer guts and binge eaters. the tech exists already in the game engine for us to have varied body types. Blizzard just has to utilize it.

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That ain’t slightly overweight. They are clinically obese. The male looks like Henry VIII.

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shrug Character creation in WoW is abysmal so there’s that.

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Well, in short, we get two different Human races. One that can be Druids, and one that can be Paladins. Each with a different Body type.

I may eventually make a female mage Kul Tiran, but by that time, I’ll have to use an Alt code to name her PamPoovey. lol

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Don’t know what you’re on about but i personally love their design. Easily my favorite Alliance Allied Race and second only to OG Draenei overall. Of course, Alliance in general sucks, but i leveled an Ally toon just so i could unlock the KT. Their druid forms are amazing and i loved the Kul Tiran storyline. Much more interesting than the Zandalari story. Their whole big brawlin’ sailor schtick is awesome. Although as someone else pointed out, i would prefer if the women were more hourglass and less apple. The female hair and face options are great though.

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