Why did rogues in their current state even make it to live servers?

Title, it’s honestly insane.

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Got ganked by a rogue in wpvp, huh?

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Yeah if you dont have a way to interrupt their opener, its a wrap.

They gotta take sub to the ground, its insane.

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No, I’m just not a dumbass who makes excuses for things that are obviously broken.

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It’s even crazier when you realize they can craft a legendary that gives them 100% crit for 4 seconds after they break stealth lmaoo

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I mean, you can beat a rogue: gotta play perfectly meaning: knowing when to trinket and wall and when to burst and be at a least 5+ higher ilvl. If you miss anything you’ll die before cheap shot is out, but yeah… you can beat them.

Yeah, the kyrian combo is kind of insane. Expect the nerf hammer soon.

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Absolutely haha

Because Blizzard is more concerned with making new temporary systems every expansion than they are in doing any work on class design/balance.

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As long as they don’t nerf sap, I’m good. My favorite way to level Rogues is to queue random BGs and stay in stealth but sap people the whole time. Hehe.

I like to sap sap sap, sprint, sap sap sap, you get the jist. It’s not helpful at all, but it’s very enjoyable.

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Standard sub rogue does roughly equal burst as multiple other classes. Once again, it’s the Kyrian ability that is destroying people within a single stun. The vast majority of arena playing Rogues have all gone Kyrian for a reason.

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Because blizzard doesn’t care.

Laughs in Kyrian Pally

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Roughly equal burst.

You didn’t actually look at that chart, did you?

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I don’t exactly know what they were looking at

I think subs got one of the higher 3 gcd bursts and those bursts seem to be over like 20 seconds

Re-roll unholy dk and Gnaw them during their opener… profit??

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Just nerf kyrian , rogue dmg itself is fine and can be dealt with. Plenty of classes are OP right now, its fun, just roll with it… I dont want another boring bfa pvp god that was snoozefest.

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This is what happens if you do a beta or alpha test for your game, and your main goal is to promote the game, rather than testing mechanics, balance, pvp, etc. (people making a “route” for the world first level 60 btw, or flying around Shadowlands like asmongold did)

Idk what you’re talking about, they’re literally simming as near top dps as a burst/control spec. In terms of the other graph (maximum burst damage per second) is not actually the same as a burst combo in pvp.

Mages, for instance, could theoretically peak at like 18k dps with procs lined up during prepatch raiding.

Top DPS in a sim run over how long? Like, you do understand how sims work, right? There is a reason why burst is separated out.

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