Yeah and? Players used to be able to get unlimited Exp in BRD too due to an exploit where you could keep queuing up the exact same quest event repeatedly. It was Horde only, so they changed it. BIAS!!!
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Or, maybe, just maybe they fixed an exploit that was not aligning with the intended game play.
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Any facts behind this, or as usual, making things up to fit your own misguided narrative? Does it ever come to an end or are you just so overly obsessed with typing that you canât help yourself?
thanks for reminding me the horde had a level 55 hyperspawn capable of dropping edgemasters for 7 months before it was fixed, definitely strengthens your argument, with orcs like you who even needs gnomes?
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And yetâŚit was fixed. If there was such a massive Horde bias, they wouldnât have touched it.
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I was a bit shocked at the disdain alliance rankers have for their more casual players. Iâm not sure if thatâs a symptom of having instant queues but itâs still sad to see.
The whole ranking premades crushing pugs is unfortunate for solo queuerâs but its not getting fixed because its a player born problem, not one created by the game.
A high loss rate in AV is unfortunate for the alliance that play AV but its not getting fixed because its a player born problem, not one created by the map.
the alliance premade situation was a player born problem too, if the horde didnât outnumber us in such great numbers then we could never have had instant queues and never could have premaded
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it would have been an exploit had it been reversed and Horde were the minority faction using it. Thatâs how exploits workâŚ
Nope, last decent data showed that alliance and horde populations overall across all server types were nearly equal.
Horde simply outnumbers those willing to pvp.
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During the week my queues for AB/WSG are like 30-60 seconds whereas AV is 2 plus hours non holiday, which is most of the time.
Across all servers there is no real population imbalance to speak of. Horde queues for AV were like 1-3 minutes in the weeks after AV/WSG came available in classic.
Ergo, the faction imbalance exists (today) for one BG because one faction doesnt queue for it because the HPH rank meta is less suited to AV as a bg.
âŚthatâs still a player born situation, the game isnât responsible for who wants to pvp and who doesnât
The game is responsible for whether those players who want to pvp can form a premade group in a BG where you arenât able to form premade groups. Nice try though.
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But I love the mental gymnastics you are going through to try to play this off as not an exploit. It is quite entertaining.
hahaha are you actually trying to argue that the reason the alliance queues are instant is down to the game and not down to players who pvp massively preferring horde? Thatâs a new one to me. So if 99% of the playerbase played alliance we would still be able to premade? Or is it down to player choices that we could? hmmm
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No alliance donât queue for AV because scorched earth is simply not a fun strat to play against.
Premades were able to mitigate that to some degree.
I meanâŚlern2read? I didnât say anything about instant queues. I said the game is responsible for keeping premades out when premades arenât the intended game play. Thatâs not a player made issue.
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Care to respond to my actual post rather than whatever discussion point you made up and attributed to me in an effort to derail my point?
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Horde had access to the exact same queuing system as alliance. Itâs a player issue they werenât able to take advantage of it.
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And is it, or is it not, an exploit to use the queuing system to form a premade group in a BG where premade groups arenât able to be formed within the game itself?
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I mean, if you are going to sit there and pretend that you donât have to exploit the gameâs queuing system as it existed at the time to form a premade group, we donât have anything further to discuss on this topic.
âŚthatâs our point, it never could have happened if it wasnât for the playerâs decision to overwhelmingly play horde, it was a situation created by the amount of players playing the game, not the game, you surely canât be this zug can you?
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Read up. I specifically stated in an earlier post that had the positions been reversed and Horde was the minority faction, IT WOULD STILL BE AN EXPLOIT. It doesnât matter why you can use the exploit. It only matters whether it is an exploit. In the case of forming premade groups for AV games, it requires you to exploit the queuing system in order to get into a premade group. Period.
I donât disagree that it was not intended and AV premades(well actually for any BG) were broken in retail.
However if blizzard is going to go ahead and change that mechanic they should have also made other post vanilla changes to AV as well like fixing the cave respawn issue. Something else that was also fixed later in retail.
That they chose to only address the problem that horde were having and ignore the problem that alliance have shows a bias.