WoW’s writing team simply have no idea. Truly.
Scrap the quest.
Garrosh represents a company called Blizzard so it makes perfect sense.
Garrosh did nothing wrong all hail the true warchief
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Unless the story continues on from here, I’m also pretty upset by it. Garrosh had his flaws, but he also had his good qualities. He had a sizable portion of the Horde who supported him even through the end, and these supporters aren’t all dead. You have to imagine there is still a sizable portion of the Horde who feel he was in the right.
And even if he wasn’t, he’s gone now. He’s dead and buried, and his ultimate goals have died with him. To defile a grave, even a grave of an evil man, is unjustifiable. It’s beyond the pale. It damages the honor of the defiler, not the defiled. Especially the orcs, who have a long history of accepting that their heroes had dark sides, should find this absolutely unconscionable. Tauren maybe haven’t had that same acceptance of wickedness in their leaders (overall), but seem even less likely to want to defile the graves of the dead.
This whole thing reads like california champaign revolutionary fanfiction.
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tldr answer: TEAR DOWN THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS!
Many people want old Horde monuments removed: they see the monuments as racist and harmful and want to do something recognizably anti-racist (taking apart Gary’s grave in this case). They argue that Horde monuments inflict unavoidable harm on undeserving persons by serving as a constant reminder of the Horde’s racist and genocidal past.
Might sound a silly comparison, but I am pretty sure the reasoning is roughly the same.
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every hero in the game is a genocide machine ask the eyeless murlocks and bears that lack butt cheeks
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Was he a good character? Definitely not.
Was he an impressive villain? More like it and ten times better than a certain edgy waifu queen, who is unjustifiably portrayed as a poor, misunderstood victim of circumstance. Yikes 
I still find it astonishing how Garrosh is treated compared to Sylvie, who was far worse by a long shot.
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I don’t think it’s silly, that’s exactly the thought I had in my head in the post I posted almost at the same time as you. I feel sure it’s that same sick mindset.
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You cant ask them, because they are dead. See, it’s the winner that writes the history and decides who the bad guy was.
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Because Blizzard and the current player base hate the Horde so much that they would relish in such a quest like this.
It’s the fault of the murloc race and bears that somehow dont have eyes and butts when I killed them that I had to wipe them all out all I needed was a few.
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I think its supposed to be subtle political commentary in the same way that Gallywix was a businessman of questionable ethics with multiple international golf courses, and a clear love of things gold.
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The cutscene of the march on the Gallagio was also straight out of soviet propaganda reels.
It’s a reflection of how well-received they are as villains, ironically. There’s more division around Garrosh because most people who dislike him feel that from an in-world lens where his actions have an internal logic. We could follow along, connect A to B, and understand – even if disagree with – his motivations.
Meanwhile almost everyone knows Sylvanas was mishandled. When people talk about her, it’s usually a matter of writing quality and the perception that Blizzard is getting worse at telling stories and making believable and compelling characters.
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Honestly when you put it that way, it does sound an awful lot like activist writing. The people who think it’s ok to throw paint at art, deface a mural or tear down statues just because they don’t agree with the person behind it (or even worse, completely unrelated reasons, like those people throwing food over art in museums to protest environmental protection)
This is like people defacing statues of Captain Cook, or Christopher Columbus. They don’t agree with someone so they tear down any monuments related to them.
Frankly, it’s disgusting
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Especially for ORCS.
ORCS! Ogrimmar is named after Orgrim Doomhammer! He had good qualities, but there is no way someone can reasonably argue that Garrosh was substantially worse than main-universe Orgrim Doomhammer. He contributed countless bodies to the Path of Glory. He was a mass murderer on a level Garrosh never even approached, even including Theramore. Yet he also saved the Horde from spiritual destruction, and orcs understand how to take the good with the bad.
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Well yeah, they have to.
Blood elves have to go man, I love jaina so much. We are BFF! does great things, never did anything wrong.
see in my vision of sl, horde BE champions would fail a mission.
Did you find Jaina in torghast?
yes I did. then I chopped her up into itty bitty pieces. So fail my mission please. its okay…you only pay me 25 gold. I can get that off 1 fish on the AH lol.
Not really sure I’d compare throwing paint at art… to tearing down monuments to traitors. (as in the generals of the southern treason, not Cook or Columbus, to be clear).
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The idea of what others think about Garrosh’s death and especially the Warsong clan, isn’t bad.
But the way it’s presented to us is just awful. First, it makes no sense why we should go to AU Dreanor if the portal is closed and second, AU Dreanor should be slowly disintegrating. Not to mention that MU Warsong orcs are going to AU Nagrand to see Garrosh’s tomb, even though Yrel is waging her Crusade of Light on Dreanor.
You can see that this quest is stupid for several reasons. Then there’s this hatred of Garrosh, because a writer absolutely has to show us how much they hate him…
From a story and logic perspective this makes no sense and it’s interesting that the new Blizzard stands for hatred.
It would be much wiser to move Garrosh’s tomb to Durotar or MU Nagrand. It’s explained that Thrall did this out of guilt. This would allow all races, like the orcs and especially the Warsong clan, to visit his grave. We could hear other opinions, others who despised Garrosh or mourned his death, rather than simply feeling hatred like the author…
Perhaps Thrall and/or Eitrigg could be included in the quest, although I’d prefer Blizzard to make it a small quest line.
Based on this criticism, Blizzard needs to change something and has two options: either remove it or rework it!
They were loyal to the states they were citizens of. The national government as you know it did not exist in nearly the same way at the time their states voted to lawfully leave the union. Your view is clear revisionism.