Why complain about dracthyr soar?

No. And they also don’t understand FUN the way normal people do, either, because whenever they find it they remove it like the game’s on fire.

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Say what you will but I am done talking to someone who clearly wants attention.

RIGHT! Like it’s so weird because the change is almost the exact opposite of provided feedback.

Dracthyr already only have one class.

They already have a visage form that’s - not only is locked to one type of race but looks nothing like the races that existed when they were created. ((Which is very different from recently established lore on visage forms).

They can’t fly unlimited, or use dragon riding like the mounts we get, meaning as dragons- we have to mount up.

It’s so baffling and frustrating.

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Just take a step back and calm yourself down. Your behavior is erratic and worrisome and nobody here wants to see you strain your mental health over a game.

It is very frustrating that they took a system that had universal praise and nerfed into something so unrecognizably bad that you now have Community Council players flaming the hell out of Blizzard in the test forums, it was a change nobody asked for and the only excuse they could give us was “pet battle efficiency advantage”

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With the next alpha build, we’re making a change to Soar for Dracthyr that reduces their maximum speed from (roughly) 930% to 640%. The maximum speed for Dragon Isles Drakes is unchanged. This only applies to the Dracthyr Soar racial ability.

In the Dragon Isles, all characters of all races are on similar footing in regards to their ability to traverse the terrain because everyone can summon a Dragon Isles Drake. However, this isn’t the case in other areas of the game where flying mounts are the mainstay of travel. In Eastern Kingdoms, Soar is currently over twice as fast as Epic Flying which travels at 410% speed. The result is that Dracthyr have a drastic efficiency advantage over characters of other races when doing non-Dragon Isles content, whether that’s Chromie Time quests, clearing old raids for transmog, pet battling, etc.

Soar is important to the identity of Dracthyr. From the outset of the design process we knew that Dracthyr had to be able to fly in some form, even if we didn’t know the specifics until later. But, Soar is also a Racial ability, and was never intended to be a massive efficiency or performance improvement over other races. These two goals are somewhat in conflict: Make Soar fun and fulfill the fantasy of being a flying creature, but don’t give one race an outsized advantage across large swathes of the game.

What we’ve found while playtesting these changes internally is that the speed change didn’t diminish the fun of the locomotion mechanics. The engaging control system, gameplay of conserving momentum, and challenge of navigating obstacles, are all still present, while also rewarding skillful use of Soar with being able to travel faster than Epic flying mounts. This hits both of the goals nicely – Dracthyr can engage in the dynamic, immersive locomotion of dragonriding, but aren’t able to blitz across a continent in half the time as other characters.

Read it again nice try and I do agree with their comment

My understanding is there are going to be more “ups” as we progress our flying ability.

We are back to why not let everything go 90000% speed since it is not an issue at all. Travel is an issue. The fact it is more nebulous means how to balance it is equally nebulous.

Except as an example of a unique movement ability that changed in alpha to more equally reflect the movement ability of other races. What this is really telling Blizzard is a closed alpha is best.

“Boring” is subjective.

The question is how much of a advantage over conventional flying does Blizzard want? I suspect none. They are trying to split the baby here and as such there probably isn’t a “good” answer beyond the boring one.

(And yes I like the dracthyr emojis!)

Im only going to reply to the part where you addressed me for brevity but the “ups” in Dragonriding are only useful in Dragon Isles terrain where the ground was designed for it and it does not apply to Soar.

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Blizzard, here is an exhaustive set of questions for determining if a change is good or bad.

  1. Does it make the game more fun?

That’s it. Every other question doesn’t matter. I have no desire to play a dracthyr since I already have a favorite class/race, but for those who will play it, it will be less fun because “OH NO, Dracthyrs get to engage with old content faster”. Video games are not about “fairness in everything”, it’s about fun.

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Let me tell you video games is about having fairness and equal footing and having fun. You cannot have one over the other it’s not how it works and that’s called tipping the scale.

“See, we are responding to feedback!”

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If they were truly ignoring feedback than they would’ve been ignoring the feedback about the talent tree as well. And also professions as well so nice try on painting them like they are not listening when in fact they are but just not catering to every single feedback they need to strike a balance.

“Weve heard your feedback and would like you to know youre ugly and we hate you”

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I’m not trying to paint them like they aren’t listening to feedback. I’m saying in this one specific case, they “listened” to feedback by doing the opposite.

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You know the nerf to Soar isn’t out yet, right?

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Can we not feed trolls and troll threads?

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Won’t effect how you play but others maybe .

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Those same people complain, moan, and whine over dracthyr and now all of the sudden they now care for dracthyr and I highly doubt any of those same people will play as one.

Oh no, read up. Weve derailed the troll thread into yet another criticism of the terrible Soar nerf

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That was exactly the problem.

People in the early Alpha build were using Soar to fly across continents. And they were doing it twice as fast as a player with regular flight.

That said, Soar does have significant limitations.

  • maximum distance and efficiency is only achieved going downhill. It works great if you start on Mount Hyjal and are flying south. Not so much if you’re trying to go the other way.
  • 5-minute CD makes it only good situationally.
    • not good for herbing due to CD.
  • requires considerable attention to do well.
    • Unlike normal flight where you can point, autorun and AFK.
    • can’t hover with Soar. Can’t use it to AFK safely anywhere like you can with normal flight.
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I mean, sure. For example, giving mages the ability to teleport to any dungeon they want to at any time would be an example of this taken to an extreme and would be unfair, but they should heavily lean on fun and only pull back when absolutely necessary. “Faster pet battles” is not a good reason at all.