Why can't tanks hold aggro on pull all of a sudden?

Why can’t tanks hold aggro on pull all of a sudden?? I understand it takes a second when gathering mobs but i’m talking a simple ironbark or even proximity aggro after tank pulls just auto pulls as a healer. I can’t even put single rejuv on tank or anything while he’s gathering (when he’s most vulnerable) before they all chase after me and i’m dead.

This has been an ongoing thing all season. I have to throw some heals on the tank so he can sustain while gathering but it just all runs..did something change this season where tanks can’t hold aggro after collecting?? or are they always this sloppy???

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We hold aggro fine.

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For me as a healer to even pull aggro just from being too close to tank collecting, or a simple HoT or ironbark …that’s insane. they need to fix that. Don’t even THINK about pre- spreading DoTs as kittyweaving…

I am gonna predict that any one else that chimes in will say that this is not an issue and it may be something you are doing. because for Warrior tanks at least, gaining and holding threat is a non issue.

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Sounds like you’re popping off before tank gets all the aggro. Count to 3 then pump

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I often find myself having to wait a couple seconds before I start doing damage. Some tanks just body pull so any damage or healing done would rip aggro. I think it’s user error. Once the tanks actually start damaging the mobs, I rarely rip aggro.

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I have to Pre-Dot as kitty… otherwise i’m too late since i have to spread HoTS. this is why i have to get in early but even a single rake or anything will pull aggro

This sounds like like it is a problem with your playstyle then.

But I will wait for another feral druid to give an opinion.

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P sure they’re talking about healing.

They aren’t scary enough.

Then why did he say pre-dot as kitty? And they also mention rake.

Not arguing. I am genuinely curious. Because I assumed healer too until they said that.

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Kitty probably as in druid, but he did clarify that he has hots in that same sentence, so I really don’t know. He did also say something about kittyweaving which sounds like it’s probably hpal or mw monk kind of playstyle

I get his issue though, some tanks, since I play disc priest, if i put a shield on you pre-pull like I’m supposed to? I get smacked right in the face by a mob

Many classes have stuff to do while tanks gather, and is why many good tanks don’t fully rely on body pulling, but timing abilities to hit as they walk past.

Honestly tho, only really have had problems with a bear tank, pre-buff, losing threat. Seems to be largely fixed, just ran a +12 with a bear, and didn’t pull off like i normally did.

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Because that’s how you’re supposed to play resto?

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This is why I enjoy Disrupting Shout. Funny story for it though is when I did my first mythic, we got the Light Dreadlord boss fight. He did phased 2 where he vanishes and we have to kick him.
My brilliant mind decided it’d be a good idea to use my AoE taunt.

I wiped us.

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The only time I’ve seen this happen is if the dps goes off while gathering.

For example, if I have a long pull because I’m getting 3 packs that are spread out, I’ll keg smash the first group and then tiger’s lust/roll to the other groups.

The keg smash is enough to keep threat for normal stuff. The only time I lose it is if a burst class decides to pop all of their abilities while I’m out of melee range gathering the other packs. Dotting things up and heals aren’t an issue.

I’d have to guess that there’s something else at play.

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alot of tanks just autorun through stuff and don’t realize they have to attack stuff on the run. Even if dps do 0 damage the healer will pull aggro.

Bonus if they keep their back turned and don’t use any speed boosts so they take insane damage while running.

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Lol.. Ain’t been good lately has it.
Wipes all over the place but I’m sure we’ll say it’s all good lmao

If it is what people claim (tanks just running by without touching enemies) then the answer is kind of clear and obvious.

I hope it was something a bit more substantial because it seems crazy that folks wouldn’t see the issue with that.

And obligatory (I don’t do that). I at a bare minimum at least hit the enemy with something. An auto attack. Heroic throw. Type “your mom stupid” in chat. Something.

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Two dungeons today like this.
I use my soul stone on me lol… Tanky can run back since he caused the wipe lol