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He was raised to have a mind of his own, and then she tried to corrupt his mind to make him her servant forcefully, thatâs denying free will, thatâs breaking your own rule that seperates forsaken from scourge, what seperated her from Arthas, at least Arthas was cool.
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The Fordaken have a free will but what let you think that Derek is a Forsaken?
He wasnât, he was a raised undead, and he has right to free will, which she denied him. Forsaken are just a faction, rule applies to everyone plagued with undeath.
But you know that you have to swear allegiance to Sylvanas before become a Forsaken, donât you?
Rule applies to denying free will to any being, not just forsaken, she is not allowed, or anyone else for that matter, to deny anyone free will, that was put in to seperate forsaken from scourge, and when member of forsaken denies free will, they break that rule. If it wasnât Sylvanas doing that, that person would probably be executed, and who knows, she just might get executed by forsaken, rather than Saurfang.
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Excuse but who said that it applies to every Undead? So itâs okay if it would be a living person instead? Kinda dumb rule, you know ![:joy:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/joy.png?v=6" ":joy:")
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It applies to everyone yeah. Night elves also got denied free will when they got raised back. I expect her death to be iconic, at hands of her own.
And who says that? Do you have any source? Iâm sure you come with Baine now.
NoâŚ
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Because the writers made it that way. 
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Yeah, they forced the warden so she makes sense, but for Delaryn and bunch of rangers to instantly become forsaken lovers and praise Sylvanas once theyâre raised makes 0 sense, did Sylvanas praise Arthas once he raised her?
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I donât say that it makes sense but many things in WoW make no sense. Come with a source which show that they donât have a free will, (even if it was showed that they couldnât raise many cause of will) or stay quiet.
Stay quiet? You just said night elves werenât denied free will. Sylvanas resisted Arthas once his hold on her weakened, but you expect all the night elves there to suddenly start following Sylvanas without free will being abused? You were wrong, itâs okay to be wrong.
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Iâm surely not wrong, I just know that Blizz is known for bad storytelling.
Because weâre in a middle of a war (that she started), so âletâs sit down and talk this outâ isnât really an option at the moment. Baine would try that but it wouldnât work out for either side.
As for other leaders.
Saurfang is Awol and designated traitor for working with the Alliance.
Lorth: âLol noâ
Ji would probably try to end it with a fighting tournament or something.
Gallywix would crunch numbers, neither side would fully want to deal with him.
The AR leaders are too new to really to get the Warchief position I would think, Thalyssra and Mayla would try for peace talks possibly, but again I donât see that working out.
Geyaârah would keep the war going most likely.
Talanji would demand Jainaâs head on a platter and then some after the Battle of Dazarlor but might be amicable afterwards.
I hate what iâm going to say, but what Sylvanas did to Derek is not necessarily something that make her an agent of the Scourge. Itâs ok ok if she deny the free will to only one undead if with that can get an advantage in this war. That make you a smart leader, a little beat cruel maybe, but sometimes youâve got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette.
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Thereâs no exceptions to rule you instill yourself, free will is sacred.
Even if breaking a rule can make win a war, or an important battle, or kill a key enemy?
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looks at Kaelthas
Really? Youâre surprised Blood Elves Back nutjobs?
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What you expect from a Human Paladin?