Why blizzard is erasing leaders? "council" philosophy

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You sound mad! I wonder why, could it be perhaps that what I say strikes a nerve?

No you’re right: the country that had the largest labor union in world history by that point, had kommissars, and used price controls WASN’T Socialist. Not at all!
Your embittered whining isn’t a good hobby to have.

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It’s not about ‘grit’ or edginess or ‘grimdark.’ You can have satisfying stories of cooperation and tolerance. The problem is none of that, it’s that these awful developers are high school writing-level talentless hacks.

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there was a survivor gameshow where one group (who were men )picked a leader and the other a bunch of modern feminists who were against a single leader and wanted everything to be democratic(they lost badly). i do know one thing modern philosophy is BS and never works. not saying this is a guy or girl thing it was just what the episode had. so the new gen are the types who think a council and democracy works and is better for the game are wrong, this is one of many reasons they basicaly begged metzen to come in to fix the game story atm because they tried and it failed metzen noticed the democratized of everything and based on that interview he was shocked at how they were messing everything up.

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The goblin cartels aren’t a democracy they’re just not ruled by one boss.

The horde council makes it a proper international coalition. The old alliance council made it a proper international coalition.

Neither the empire of Stormwind nor the empire of Orgrimmar should ever have been things, they only existed to sell people on Garrosh and Varian (and the result is that it contributed to people hating both).

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Found the zoomer

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So cute trying to justify this mess :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:
It almost feels like WoW is not going viral for cringe 14y.o story level

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I’m probably older than you.

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They don’t want one person exemplifying any controversial view points.

They want everything to be cleaned by the purity and filtration of the brain rot AI provides

They want everyone to excessively self censor and become numb

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Still better than you and your trolling nonsense. Now c’mon, entertain me - invent some fallacy where objective reality cease to be! Or where somehow someway sometime WoW is now set in some poor guy’s misinterpreted version of European medieval history!

C’mon, entertain me!
I wanna laugh more in regards to the silly things you say!

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see that is why the game is dying its a self inflicted wound. they need to allow openness allow freedom and bring back the old stories idk what the word is other than vibe, there is a major shift in them and its evident, and since metzen has been involved in the game weather a dev or not since warcraft 1 he has the most legitimate claim on how wow should be.

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Hey, I admire this guy’s commitment and support for education!
I wonder what he’ll do if he finds the 4 HR long video supporting my earlier claim made by the gentleman TIKhistory?
Surely he won’t dismiss it outright for political reasons!

In the words of Gul’dan, because clearly this Warlock has been acting like more of a Paladin recently(no offense to pallies):
“Drink…”

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Objective reality is what R.R. Martin does with Game of Thrones, where an army is torn apart by trusting the enemy won’t kill anyone. Because it’s about human nature.

Objective reality is NOT a woman scolding men in public and them crying being sad and confuse.
That’s not objective reality; that’s an agenda.

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reality is not fair nor nice and i dont think alot of westerners truely understand how dark the world is, i truely think they asume the world is like how where they live is. and so this lack of understanding effects their story as is the case for any writter your views your understand impacts it.

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No, it wasn’t. The bad guy in question pretended to be a socialist regarding some topics, but acted completely contrary to that. They only used the word “socialist” to get the support from the working class. They loved capitalist big industry and exploitation of workers and industry was kept mostly private, like BMW, Siemens, Daimler, Krupp etc… elites and nobility were made partners of the state. There was no redistribution of wealth and goods, social benefits were only done for propaganda.
Real socialist were imprisoned aaand… you know the rest of the story.

They only did that to ensure control in times of arms-buildup and warfare. Prices could fluctuate, but only if the government permitted it.

That’s false. Unions were completely abolished 1933. There was one single centralized substitute organisation that was completely controlled by the state. But it wasn’t there to represent the interests of workers, it was only there to control everyone. Strikes, negotiations and work committees were strictly forbidden. Its only purpose was to ensure ideology, loyalty and discipline, lol. Please educate yourself.

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It doesn’t have to be so … there could be manipulation, backstabbing, shifting alliances, old grudges, … etc. but I think such writing is beyond Blizzard though.

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I’d say it’s for the simple fact they don’t want to invest the time / writing to make a singular leader like they used to. I mean in general they have dropped the ball when it comes to story time and again.

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unions will lose and those in them will be losing their jobs to AI and machines in the future.

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Well so far when it’s all on a single leader to make decisions they have a tendency to go crazy with power. Then we all have go raid a city to stop them. You know the costs to fix a city after that?

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i have a feeling that with metzen in controll the Council bs is on life support and wont last past midnight.

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Oh my god, you think Game of Thrones is representative human nature and considering your other references human history! My god this is hilarious!

And my god, you think people don’t have emotions because people have the ability to cry! This is god dammit hilarious! Like… what are you, 15 and perpetually stuck in a CoD-lobby?

I didn’t get the fallacy you were talking about earlier but god, this was entertainment through and through. Regardless though, I like being productive, so here’s where you are wrong:

  1. Women held a very high position in society from Ancient to late Medieval time, they didn’t hold high public offices, but their role in society were usually far more important than what people are typically taught. Especially people who have never done critical historical analysis of farmer’s and the like. Due to a high mortality rate amongst men, women would usually at some point have to take over businesses until they remarried (or if they remained a widow for the rest of their lives).
  2. Because of the above thing, women throughout European history have been often associated with the role of teaching men their position when they have done something wrong. This role women would have changed quite a lot during the Victorian Era due to the societal role for women changing quite drastically from being the producer and manager of the lower class during the medieval period, whilst the high class women would be subject to “Courtly Love” which is more about romanticism than history, at least in any regards of how it would relate to this.

And finally…

  1. With all of this said, none of this relates to Warcraft. The only thing that Warcraft takes inspiration from in regards to the medieval period is the generalized aesthetic of castles, soldiers, and stuff like that.

In other words, you are kinda wrong in every possible way - as per usual and expected from you, Brox. But thank you for the laugh, it was really fun to read you being silly and cry about dog whistles as you usually do!

Hope you grow up one day, Broxie!

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