That’s the trinket I’m talking about.
It isn’t rare in the Vault.
I know.
1 item.
Apparently 1 single trinket is the same thing as every single available slot in the entire game including weapons and other trinkets.
Honestly I feel raiding and mythic+ have a much better alignment in terms of difficulty to reward ratio in DF.
Not sure what you’re talking about. Loot feels the same from SL and BFA
34,000 raiders are eligible to loot the absolute highest ilvl of M+ gear by killing an easy boss and a lot less people do Mythic Raiding than M+. That’s on top of getting exclusive access to tier at this time. I utterly reject the notion that M+ gear is more rewarding than raiding. Utterly utterly reject it.
Better, but not perfect.
Remember when blizzard gave us currency in our weekly chest in BFA? That currency assuring that you’d eventually get to buy a piece you wanted, even if RNG backhanded you 4 weeks in a row? Peppridge farm remembers.
A piece on a SLOT you wanted but still RNG whether you get the correct traits
Literally 1 single item.
1 item.
That’s what you’re saying the 34,000 raiders have access to when you say equal item level max mythic+ which is 421
Not all 16 slots.
Not weapons.
1 single item
2 kills is only enough for 1 vault shot at it on mythic as well. Literally 1 vault slot to roll 1 single 421 item.
Come on man.
Raiding and mythic+ have probably the best difficulty to reward ratio in DF it’s ever had.
I’m not a fan of the catalyst being delayed so much, but it’ll be out for months when it comes time to push highest keys at the end. And 95% of the population with 421 tier will have gotten it from the mythic+ vault.
Are you implying that raiding in WoW is hard content? The first few bosses, even in mythic, are loot pinatas. It’s only later bosses in mythic that require truly competent play, and only the very last of a tier that are challenging in heroic.
The “difficulty” in raiding, is just the pre game scheduling mini game, and herding cats element that goes with any large group of people.
The second you engage Mythic Plus you just sent a big flashing green light to Blizzard confirming you want to run the same content to infinity… Why wouldn’t they think it’s a good idea to exploit your time.
The whole mode is bad for the concept of fun and more tilted towards modern day work conditioning. Not work ethics… conditioning.
You’re right, that’s why good coordinated groups like the best guilds cleared the raid in the first afternoon. Because they didn’t have to worry about the scheduling mini-game. They just showed up on time and killed it because they handled the logistics easy.
The first few bosses are easier, and appropriately drop 415 instead of 421.
To be perfectly frank–I know this goes against all historic MMO logic but…
Raiding and M+ shouldn’t yield gear progression but should yield cosmetics.
Then you’d really see who enjoys that content for that content
I think the safe assumption here is no one would do it, which then begs the question, is that content fun?
A trinket, one of the big ticket items.
They also get access to tier.
This is all for doing easy content. I know they’re not pushing hard. The guild that I hang out in I see people who struggle to time 15s killing Mythic bosses that can drop some of the highest possible gear. That’s insane. That’s actually insane. Bad players are getting some of the strongest possible loot.
Sorry, but no, you should not be getting anywhere close to the gear you get from timing a 20 for beating the first few bosses of the raid. All the gear should be 415 or 418 at most - that’s more akin to what you get from those timegated crafted items for doing 16s. 421+ should be reserved for actually challenging content, not something that most of a raid is able to loot out of their Vault. And you say its only one item, but tier is also a thing and that also closes (or usurps) any other ilvl gap.
No one plays MMOs for “fun”, if you’re being honest. They play for the pseudo achievement of having better whatever than other people.
There are outliers of course, the people who would keep logging into emerald dream to hang out in goldshire or whatever it is they do there. But the overwhelming majority would stop, if there was no clear progression to go for, that increased their power in the process.
People would keep playing FF14 for the story, probably. But wow has no coherent story at this point, and it’s all created by total hack writers.
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Maybe if the entire raid equips solely that 1 trinket they 1 shot the boss or something? I’m not denying it’s not a good trinket but tunneling it is crazy.
If mythic+ at a +17 had chance to drop 1 single item in the vault at 421 would that suddenly make mythic+ gearing bonkers or something?
As for tier, every single person in the game will have 4p tier in a few weeks. Im not defending the catalyst time gate, but everyone will have 4p for 3-4 months out of a 5-6 month season guaranteed.
And end of season is when all the mythic+ and PvP pushes happen. Once gearing is done, and WAY after the catalyst will be out.
And all the 421 tier for 95% of players will come directly from the mythic+ vault and/or catalyst 421 mythic+ items.
That is sad… I can tell you all about the night the Dragonspine Trophy trinket dropped for me…
Ask Brewa. He lost his mind that Poxstorm and BSS existed. Yes, raiders would mald like lunatics if M+ gear had super easy BIS-type gear to get.
True. Still feels like second-class citizen status to be told “You can wait to enjoy the game because we don’t want to hurt the raiders feelings”.
Is this season better? Sure. Is it ideal? Not really. And yet somehow we still have the likes of Brewa coming in here and saying M+ is overrewarding instead of underrewarding. Lol.
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Of course the content isnt any fun anymore. Once you have done the dungeon, doing it another 15 times isnt fun. Once you have downed the raid boss, its not any fun. BUT its like the one arm bandit at the casino. Keep pulling that lever!! They will make things to give you while robbing you of 15 bucks a month.
Lol no… no no. Not at all
“Raiders thou shalt not be denied”
Pretty sure that’s a plaque in Ion’s office.
I’m sure some raider will tell me they don’t get catered to because they have to do X to stay relevant.
Meanwhile over in the slums of pugging and casual world we’re happy if we get table scraps.
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They should have made mythic raiding and anything above a +15 key reward cosmetic gear only. Mythic raid and high level m+ would have their own separate colored cosmetic only variation of a set. It would kill mythic raiding overnight though which is why this will probably never happen.
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