Why are you ok with M+ Loot being the way it is? Worse than a Gacha Game

If they increased the drop rates, they would have to add a harder lockout than the soft lock in the form of valor cap.

i remember when valor didnt exist at all.

I’ll always remember getting the heroic Sylv leggo bow on my hunter. It was my first time ever downing her on that difficulty on that toon and 8 other hunters were in the group and had been farming at least all season. I won with a 34 (was after they changed fated raids to group loot). Def not the same feeling when buying with the dinars. Kinda felt like buying a pvp piece. Just whatevs.

Got out of my chair for that bow drop though.

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I sometimes wonder how many people actually enjoy M+ as opposed to just using it to gear.

Fun fact. The person responsible for making badges in WotLK publically apologized during a CDC, on stage, because he thought the system was so bad.

I’m in no rush to get gear. I’m only 386 ilvl with a 1200 rating, I know this season still has like 4 or 5 months left.

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If M+ loot rewards were brought in line with the rest of the game’s activities, we’d quickly see how ā€œpopularā€ M+ really is.

These blizz nerds cry if the game is 100% m+ focused

It would be hard to tell since I assume you are suggesting that there should be a loot lockout. People don’t run raids for ā€œfunā€ after they can no longer get loot, so why would you expect them to run M+?

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This just in, RNG is RNG

More shocking news at 11

Of course they do. You think people raid for loot? :rofl:

you know what else is boring? Not getting loot

Yes. If they ran it for ā€œfunā€ you would see people doing it multiple times a week…but we don’t. They run it for their chance at loot and then stop.

Boss isn’t there anymore after the first kill. (On Mythic, I mean.)

Plot twist: WoW is literally a gotcha game.

Don’t like the grind? Buy tokens for carries and crafted gear.

There are 4 difficulties, so if mythic raiders find it so fun, they have the ability to have more fun than anybody else in the game.

But again…they don’t. So they may push heroic for extra gear early in the season and then stop when it no longer helps them.

This game is like Munchhausen syndrome. No matter how bad the treatment folks will rally to defend it because it’s all they have and it’s sad. There is definitely psychological manipulation going on all over the place that is why many left the game without a thought yet some just cannot break the cycle. I gave up doing anything outside of a few quest now after the group loot and gacha weekly vault of rng disappointment.

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And then they create 3 alts to run the raid over and over. Heck I knew some guys that used to raid in 3 different mythic guilds.

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You can get similar or better gear out of raids and PVP. At roughly equivalent levels of difficulty.

I’d be willing to bet that number of players is very very small.

Most people do M+ for the gear. I do.

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Do you really think a +16 is comparable difficulty to a Mythic raid boss?

(Because they’re not.)