The Forsaken were ordered to invade Gilneas by Garrosh. To be fair though, they were also ordered not to use the Blight and they did it anyway.
Since the new Death Knights will be playable in 8.3., I think Blizzard’s plan is to have Bolvar do it while he still has the Helm. If that is what they’re doing, then it’s also pretty dumb how none of them were there to defend Bolvar from Sylvanas.
Yes, but creating DKs has never needed the Lich King. The ones created in Cata have the same abilities as the player ones by the way. So it’s not like even that is special only to the Lich King. Lorewise nothing odd is happening in that regard. Hell, one of the Legion npc DKs creates new dks. And I’m not talking about the Horsemen. And yes, the ones you recruit are new. They are stated to be.
Except she isn’t. There’s exactly one scene (in Cata) where she mass-raises undead who are immediately like “ALL HAIL THE DARK LADY!”
In all other cases the undead are either raised on the battlefield (which the devs have stated causes confusion, aggression and battle-lust in new undead) or they’ve made the choice to join the Horde (like it or not, the Nelf undead are presented as having a choice to return or not.)
I EFFING told everyone that other races of Death Knight weren’t absent because of lore, but because Blizzard wanted to make more money adding them later. TOLD YOU. I told you the same thing with gnome hunters too. Nobody listens to me.
Now… After a massive outcry from the public about raising the Night Elves into undeath against their will.
This was literally a change Blizz made to the lore, and in-game chat after people told them they didn’t like Sylvanas raising the undead into servitude against their will…
Because people have loved to hate on Sylvanas since launch. She could have been 110% good, giving kisses to puppies on the forehead and people would still be outraged. The playerbase is somewhat fractured in terms of liking or disliking Sylvanas.
Also people were mad at Nelf Dark Rangers because they were ‘supposedly’ to have had Free-Will but if that were the case, then them going “Ah yes, I will happily desecrate my homeland & slay my remaining kin that have stayed to defend it. Would you like more blight with your tea?” didn’t quite make sense.
Now Deathknights are a whole new story. The original Death Knights were under the will of the Lich King but had their minds cleared and their shackles freed at the battle of Lights Hope Chapel (Somewhat like what incurred with the Forsaken & Sylvanas when Ner’Zhul was weakened) – With Bolvar’s Deathknight’s we don’t quite yet know the full extent of their story … I mean for instance (And this is just pure speculation) why they were ressurected by Bolvar, it could be have been
– When the Shadowlands opened, his still-established-link with undeath could also tell the machine of death was broken – And with what fading power he had remaining of the Lich King: Used to resurrect fallen champions of various peoples, to restore the balance between life & death – And carry out the task of which he, had grimly failed; but alas also be granted another opportunity for splendours, adventures and more.
Alternatively it could had been more sinister than that, perhaps he had risen them long before, with his own dark plans with Undeath throughout Azeroth (As we’ve seen him embracing the mantle of it such, more & more in the Death Knight Legion Campaign) – And when they were out on a mission, Sylvanas came & yeeted his crown in half. Somewhat kind of what incurred with Illidan and his Illidari Demon Hunters; they were out shopping for a keystone and when they got back "Oh Noooooew!"
Personally I hope its the former than the latter, as it feels more purposeful & thought-out in terms of writing. But ~ I suppose we’ll have to wait and see.
Sylvanas actually did not get much hate for raising new undead in lore. Almost no one but Garrosh talked about it at all. In fact, the ones that tended to have the most issues with it were the ones she raised. (See Lillian). Otherwise most people were only bothered by it when she used it as an offensive weapon in wars against factions not strictly evil (Gilneas, the Alliance, and even against her own people the Horde via friendly fire blight bombs).
That doesn’t mean everyone was cool with it, per say, but that wasn’t really the issue with her for a long time. It was more the… Killing Alliance, Killing Horde, Killing everyone in her way, burning Capital Cities full of innocents, starting wars, killing her own forsaken for daring to be happy at the peace conference she set up for forsaken to meet their living relatives (because if they were happy they might abandon her), arranging for her ‘allies’ to become targets of the alliance to ingender hostility between the factions, using the lifeblood of azeroth as a super weapon and literally forcing the alliance to do the same or be steamrolled, and basically being a sociopathic monster tyrant for a leader.
That said, from a Lore standpoint, we don’t actually know if anyone’s going to be okay with Bolvar raising new DK’s. If he is anything like he was in legion, dude is pretty bad… But if he’s raising them post Helm of Dominion breaking, after Sylvanas is gone, and he’s more like his normal self then it might legitimately be more of a ‘we need more… more heroes of who have fallen of late… and I know where we can find them.’ Something cool, epic, even if it is a bit tragic in some light.
I mean, even though Mograine warned us how upset people would be, no one really seemed to object or even notice the new Horsemen for the most part. It’s going to bum me out if no one even reacts to this.
Hey every other DK has been raising an Undead Minion since we let them join our teams, so really I don’t think people care about it too much beyond it being generally unpleasant.
I’m not against it just yet, because he hasn’t made it clear he wants to kill everyone off to feed the death machine yet. We’ll see. But I felt apprehensive about his moves in Legion. It doesn’t seem at this point that he’s going in that Arthas-like direction though. But DKs will likely always have someone to serve that has a foot in both life and death. So nothing changes unless a culling happens again.
Now I gotta stop you right there Taba and point out in the Highlord’s defense, he had a 2 handed weapon and he was clearly trying to fight as a Frost Death Knight. That slants any battle heavily in the favor of any attacker.
I don’t know yet what exactly the specifics of the new Death Knights are, so I’ll reserve my judgment of it until we have more information on hand. I suspect he may be raising people that were killed in the Fourth War, and potentially giving them a choice after revealing the situation regarding the Maw.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens. Maybe a… Rastakhan DK…? >.>