This is a very unfriendly melee tier + rogues having no raid buffs + UH DKs being the best DPS in the game.
No room for rogues unfortunately.
Rogues aren’t bad, but the raid is so tightly tuned that you need to stack the best you can to clear it.
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Loads of consistent aoe needed this tier and rogues are not anywhere close to the stronger cleave melee like unholy
We just get outclassed. But who really cares about leaderboards? Just make your own group and get loot.
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they dont bring utlity to the raid, perhaps bring some repair bots and food for raid buffs?
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I was thinking he meant mythic raids. Out of all those hardly any are as powerful as a DKs AoE shield or the the pally Aura. Many of this are no use an a raid boss.
You’re clueless.
Rogues aren’t being taken because unholy is overturned and fills the same role as rogue with the same immunity.
Race for world first guilds are stacking DKs due to this.
Outlaw is good in pve. It’s not broken in pve
Cries in assassination.
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hands my furry friend a cup of tea
…remember when we didn’t suck? Good times…
#sinforlife
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If they have any concept of balance melee should always do more damage than ranged… Because you have to be in melee to deal damage and ranged does not. It’s really quite simple…
Especially when hunters are aimed shotting me from melee and there’s nothing I can do about it lol
But yeah rogues are pretty mediocre. And that’s one spec, the other two are not worth using at all sadly.
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Outlaw is balanced and not broken like UDK right now also no cloak immune needed. The other 2 are well…better than frost mage at best.
And even then, with Unholy DK you can be ranged half the time of you need to be. I know you miss out on auto swings but you lose much less than other melee having to move for mechanics if you take clawing shadows. Make sure the boss is stacked up before you move and burst them with ranged clawing shadows and death coils as you move for mechanics.
Shhhhhh blizzard might catch on to something smart and do it, we don’t want that now do we? Oh and by the way i dont like taking 10k melee hits in torghast, we are supposed be tanks now how cute 
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they just buffed monks in torghast this week but didnt touch rogues
my friend has a monk alt he did layer 8 at 140 ilvl…im 190 on my rogue and barely did layer 4…
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I cleared layer 8s solo as sub at 193 ilevel
I havent tried since the nerfs tbh. But im sure its a bit easier. Still ZERO reason to buff monks
Max from Complexity Limit touched on this a bit in his stream this morning. His view is that rogues bring no raid utility.
This is correct.
Unholy is bonkers right now.
