Why are Tanks and Healers terrible at their jobs in dungeons?

DPS are complaining?

Why are you giving second class players of the game your attention?

No they are not lol. Tanks and healers are the most toxic players lol. They will straight up leave a key and get insta invites

That’s usually because some mealy mouth DPS gave them flak or made some disparaging comment.

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because the DPS are terrible at theirs.

Sometimes I am amazed at what threads people are able to dig up.

I wonder what was their thought process. How did they find it. So many questions. No answers.

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hahah. its not just that as a tank people have high expectations of me, so in turn i have expectations of them.
didnt interupt - leave
didnt CC - leave
not doing good dps - leave
didnt use utility - leave
didnt wait for me to get aggro - leave
made a comment about me - leave
didnt use defensive - leave
poor positioning - leave
not playing fotm dps class - leave

Instant tank ques have been awesome.

This is false nowadays.

A healer can’t carry bad dps anymore.

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Good tanks / healers generally run with their guild or close friends they can work together with and don’t usually pug.

Also both specs and especially tanks are expected to know the run inside and out for maximum time, makes 0 mistakes and make up for the mistakes made by DPS players.

Nah i do charity work and carry people.

Words cannot describe the amount of dopamine I received when a group member praised me for handling the infinity orbs mechanic during Chrono Lord Deios in a +10.

(…and it was as simple as “If I have an orb spawn above me, I will always hold position. If I don’t have an orb spawn above me, I’ll get in one”)

The weird thing is that as a healer I can keep the group healed through all kinds of situations. But if a dps runs the wrong way from the group and right into a pack of mobs and dies. Some how that’s my fault as they start berating me for not keeping them healed.
Go figure?

A “bad healer” is almost indistinguishable from bad DPS in pugs. If you’re going to stand in mechanics, unless you’re a warlock in the middle of a tight DPS check, that’s not the healer’s fault. There are very few heal checks in Dragonflight that aren’t dependent on the dps succeeding mechanics.

Or, more poignantly:
“Why don’t you do it then?”

I think I’ve only had one healer leave this season so far (although a guildie healer wanted to leave because of bursting.) As a tank I’ve left two this season. In both cases its was me being 100% sure that even a completion was beyond the group.

I’m usually ok with sticking stuff out. Heck on a rise we wiped 4 times on Moochie and probably 10 times on the last boss. Despite failing the timer it gave me enough experience to know what to expect from a +20 (as it turns out fall is overtuned and the +20 AD I ran felt like a +16 in comparison.)

I don’t know if I agree with this statement. I think many of us started out being a very bad tank and only through guidance and enough experience have we become better.

I was kicked from the very first raid I ever tanked because I couldn’t get my head around taunt swapping (I didn’t use addons to help track debuffs.) I gave up tanking for an entire expansion but came back to it because I love aoe and I love being able to survive things others can’t. It took a friend playing how low can you go (Not healing me until I was in single percentage health digits) to teach me to roll defensives instead of popping them all at once in a panic.

After that it took a discord group going through each dungeon pull by pull and warning me what they were concerned about in each pull, to understand how to chain or mass pull packs and in general what to watch out for. Than I found youtube guides and routes.

I think everyone has the capacity to become a great tank it just takes getting over self doubts and ignoring unwarranted criticism (at 2.5k io in week 2 and I’ve already been told to uninstall the game this week) while learning from constructive criticism (could you not tank this pack on the stairs as it causes line of sight issues for healers.)

When the tank and healer run the dungeon successfully the dps don’t even notice. But let a tank or healer make a mistake and the howls of anguish resound. Although I must say this use to be worse. These days players are more forgiving. But occasionally you still get a toxic hothead.

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Why does the first person who replied without reading the post have 70 likes?

Why do human paladins have a hard time understanding common sense?

Explain it to me so my dumb brain can understand. The post of his title said tanks and healers don’t do their job, while the body of the post explained why the title was wrong. It was a misleading title that made you think the OP was going to bash healers and tanks, but then he went on to defend them. You posted about good healers and tanks don’t join his groups, leading me to believe you read the title and replied to that without reading the body of the post. Is that not correct?
Please, enlighten me.

That you see a difference where my statement wouldn’t apply is on you. In both scenarios you made my statement would still hold true.

There aren’t two scenarios, there is a title and then the body of a post explaining the title. You just didn’t read the post and then mashed what you thought was a witty reply for a quick burn. You only made yourself look stupid and now you’re doubling down on it because your pride won’t let you admit you were wrong. I understand, you just have bad reading comprehension, along with the people that hearted that comment, so I can toss you on the mute list and not have to think about it anymore. Adios bud.

You’re wrong but carry on. Goal was never to quick burn, just to state the true. Pugs are a terrible way to do content and most healers and tanks often have the chance to not pugs as they’re more valuable and rare to find. If you run with a guild you’ll never need to pug much for example.

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