Why are people so vocal about dragon flying?

[Monicia-wyrmrest-accord]

@Pulemy-windseeker

Because they are confused and seem to think that normal flying should or can exist in the game going forward.

It can and should tho

[Apoptygma-amanthul]

Also, Would have made sense if the Dragon they give you in the deluxe edition was actually a dragon mount. I have no idea how the hell Blizzard marketing let that one go through. I had the most ridiculous time try to explain to my friend i just introduced to WoW who bought the deluxe upgrade. Absolutely stupid. That’s another topic though.

[Stabmcstabby-aegwynn]

@Awkward-frostmourne

I mean, that doesn’t say that Dragonflying is hard

That whole “people that hate dragonflying are the same people who couldn’t do naxx in vanilla” just threw me off.

[Beefyudders-mankrik]

Any time I need to go to the old world, I tear up a little bit knowing my flying mount will be so much slower than my dragon.

You may not NEED dragon riding (except to get to Valdrakken I think), and I didn’t like it at first either, I wanted to fly normally. Then I leveled it up, got all the glyphs, and now I love it.

I’m having dragon riding withdrawals even as I type this, =(

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Stabmcstabby-aegwynn

did OP just say dragonriding is as hard has doing naxx in classic?

Well considering OP is practically lying (or greatly exaggerating to a point of disingeniousiness) about not needing dragonflying at all though the campaign (there was a quest that requires it, the one that teaches you it), it’s not surprising that OP says this outloud.

@Sasarai-blades-edge

Because they don’t really care about the handicap and things like that. They don’t want dragon riding they want classic. People make up flimsy excuses rather than just saying that

Why?

Because that’s not what they were saying. They simply wanted both options. No removal or nothing complicated.

@Nikolo-proudmoore

The only benefit I can see from limiting normal flight at this point is stopping herbing/mining bots

Define “stopping”.

Because it’s not going to stop the bots from figuring out how to code dragonflying into their scripts and what not. Or find the most efficient routes with it, as well look like the normal players.

@Pulemy-windseeker

It’s slower than dragon riding, so maybe it wouldn’t crowd it out entirely. But it still allows you to go straight up and down, go any direction without limit (cept invisable ceiling). It also doesn’t have cooldowns.

Man when you say it outloud it’s really obvious that this never should’ve been implemented in any game, let alone an MMO.

I fail to see how this sort of flying is bad for any game really. I mean Flying in this game, wasn’t meant to be fancy or anything, it’s suppose to take you from point A to B and that’s just fine. Ground mounts are like that in terms of idea, that being, just being a convenient way of getting around.

People should have options for both tbh, because both has it’s advantages and disadvantages. Like normal flying is good for freedom of control. While Dragonflying is good for speed.

@Apoptygma-amanthul

Also, Would have made sense if the Dragon they give you in the deluxe edition was actually a dragon mount. I have no idea how the hell Blizzard marketing let that one go through.

It might potentially look bad on Blizzard since the dragonflying mounts aren’t exactly cosmetic, and might give an impression that it’s being Pay4Advantage here.

[Lingxiu-the-forgotten-coast]

The MSQ also demands you get Dragonriding which is stupid and needlessly impedes progress. Just have a differently-colored exclamation mark and leave the MSQ alone.

[Asterithel-moon-guard]

@Baridorielor-malfurion

It might potentially look bad on Blizzard since the dragonflying mounts aren’t exactly cosmetic, and might give an impression that it’s being Pay4Advantage here.

They are no less cosmetic than normal mounts. It could have just been another dragonriding skin. You would still unlock it and progress it in game.

[Apoptygma-amanthul]

Yea why aren’t they “cosmetic” don’t all 4 do exactly the same thing

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Asterithel-moon-guard

You would still unlock it and progress it in game.

That’s the potential snag i was hinting at.

And i say potentially here, because somebody who is buying WoW Dragonflight Epic or Heroic edition, will have no idea how the game plays prior, but might understand given the promotional material that this mount, if it is dragonriding, is tied to that unlock talent progress in the same in some way. And might get the wrong impression.

You know the deluxe edition of TBC where it gives you a mount where the game you’re suspose to take at least a week or so to get one though Hard* work?

[Stepfister-tichondrius]

My only gripe with it is when I want to go up or down a short distance I’m forced to move at an unreasonable speed for such short a distance.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

Or precisely landing on stuff.

As much i think you can be precise with it and you can actually can, there are times where i just want to land on something and either i keep on missing or just go into a circle around it because of the turn limit. Something i don’t find really enjoyment in, because i don’t find enjoyment in having my controls hindered.

[Rashiko-bleeding-hollow]

I don’t know what to say, if Dragonriding is hard for you, you probably don’t have enough motor skills to function IRL. Maybe work on that.

[Innã-malfurion]

Why? I don’t know, maybe go read their threads and try to understand them instead of posting yet another thread just to start your own echo chamber?

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Rashiko-bleeding-hollow

if Dragonriding is hard for you, you probably don’t have enough motor skills to function IRL.

I honestly hope you don’t actually wonder why people call pro-dragonriders “ableist.” if that’s your attitude.

It would be no different if somebody else tell you the same exact thing with you with normal flying.

[Dremin-sargeras (Dremin)]

@Baridorielor-malfurion

I fail to see how this sort of flying is bad for any game really. I mean Flying in this game, wasn’t meant to be fancy or anything, it’s suppose to take you from point A to B and that’s just fine. Ground mounts are like that in terms of idea, that being, just being a convenient way of getting around.

People should have options for both tbh, because both has it’s advantages and disadvantages. Like normal flying is good for freedom of control. While Dragonflying is good for speed.

This comment just made me wonder if there are spots in Dragon Isle that can’t be reached by a ground mount.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Dremin-sargeras

This comment just made me wonder if there are spots in Dragon Isle that can’t be reached by a ground mount.

My point was that traveling mounts were just meant to be convenient.

[Rashiko-bleeding-hollow]

@Baridorielor-malfurion

I honestly hope you don’t actually wonder why people call pro-dragonriders “ableist.” if that’s your attitude.

If turning your mouse is hard for you, I don’t know what to tell you, dude.

[Dremin-sargeras (Dremin)]

Ok, my point was that your point made me wonder if folks can get everywhere on the ground if they need to or if dragonflying is a necessity. I haven’t spent much time traveling on the ground.

[Lethidoxi-tichondrius (Lethidoxi)]

Bdcause after do many years of regular flying its a change. Idk about you but some people do NOT like change.

What i mean about that is in my work field people move around a lot. Usually due to bad management but some stay a very long time. Why? Because they like doing the same thing they have grown accustomed to it. You got people working there for 7+ years doing a good job but they get paid less then the new hires even when we get raises once a year

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Rashiko-bleeding-hollow

If turning your mouse is hard for you—

I didn’t say that and you should really stop with the ad-homs (in before you say “but it’s the truth”, like EVERYBODY does, because i guess this forum has more priests saying the word of god and “IT IS THE TRUTH!!” then a regular church), unless you want to make Dragonriding look worse to people.

@Dremin-sargeras

Ok, my point was that your point made me wonder if folks can get everywhere on the ground if they need to or if dragonflying is a necessity.

I’ve yet to try out that theory, but it looks to me that Blizzard has sort of thought of this with ferries and what not.

@Lethidoxi-tichondrius

Idk about you but some people do NOT like change.

…Despite the fact people are okay with Talent Trees, Grand hunts, a new class, cross faction grouping… Why are you putting “Dragon riding” as the only thing that changed with DF, hence this silly argument of “Oh people dislike change”?.. More importantly, why you think Appeal to Novelty isn’t a fallacy? As in, why you think Change for the sake of change is good regardless of the quality of the change?

Doesn’t matter if it’s old or new, if it’s good, it’s good. And Dragonflying, from all the responses i’ve seen are mixed to above average at best, with a few substantive praises that isn’t just an over-hyping substanstiveless “I enjoy it, it’s “fun”” without actually explaining anything that it might as well just be a “I hate it, it sucks” comment with a different lick of paint.