Why are delves easy?

T9 through T11 were intended to be harder optional modes, but people wanted more rewards for them so they were made easier.

I think it’s cool people get a lot of usage and enjoy Delves. Delves are still very new to the game, and maybe they’re not exactly sure where they want them to be just yet, so it’s somewhat still in an experimental stage.

Keep in mind that you’re talking to someone who thinks everyone but mythic raiders is getting too great a reward for their skill level and basically only posts to advocate for nerfing loot from M+ and delves. But it’s totally because he wants what’s best for us, it’s definitely not out of any kind of resentment.

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I have Snozay blocked

Not sure how he sees my posts, but I’m not unblocking him to see his replies to me.

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Almost every single thing you’ve said about ‘delvers’ lmao

Look I get that you have to back up ya boi up there so you can both continue to feel accomplished in the World of Warcraft online video game, but lol come on now.

Fwiw, I don’t have a dog in this fight, I don’t do delves I just PvP. It just seems weird how defensive you and your number one get about these pixels on someone elses characters.

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its not a two way thing he can still see your posts if u ignore him.

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How is my being a member of the 'delver" group somehow disqualfy anything else I said. Perhaps I’m not talking directly to you, Snozay. It is possible to make comments on the forum about content I engage in, that are not directly addressing you. We know where you stand. Got it.

The reasons that people do delves are varied. And you are being especially petty and nitpicky today, like the person who you went after for having “know your rotation” too far down on their list for you, when it was perfectly clear what they meant. Maybe stop being hairtrigger aggressive over a game. No one is impressed by you.

I am going to engage in this thread, about content that I do, whether you pick it apart or not.

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Blizzard specifically mentioned in their whole Delve discussion their goal is to promote a less stressful experience in obtaining gear for more for the solo/casual play style for players without rewarding players high end gear (in the likes of Mythic quality gear) but also serve as an alternative method obtaining gear without being funneled into Mythic Plus being the main content in obtaining gear over Raiding which is per week.

If Delves ever became just as difficult as Mythic Plus while the rewards remain the same, Delves will be the better alternative to gear up your character with the exception of BiS items. It’s like that currently, however, you will have a DECLINE in M+ participation in Season 2 just like Season 1 did because of the tuning of Season 1 Mythic Plus Seasonal Dungeons and that was provided with obtained data through Blizzard.

I don’t get how people still don’t understand Delves is MEANT to obtain quick gear for Mythic Plus entry. It’s a lot better running Delves currently than running Heroic/Mythic 0 for gear with WAY less stress, 4-5 bountiful Delves + Map a week. The BiS rewards will come w/ M+, not Delves which I’m sure you’re very aware of.

The point being Delves is the “easier” content without the BiS gear flow is not even a problem. A Heroic/Mythic Raider or Mythic Plus player will ALWAYS out gear a Delve player to include obtaining Gilded Crests, so what’s the problem? You can obtain your set piece in Delves from weekly Great Vault rewards also, which Raid and M+ can also provide during the GV weekly reward. I don’t see a issue with Delve T8+ GV rewards Hero set pieces.

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is this a real question?

Pretty much, last season was for bragging rights going past the reward track. If they maintained that difficulty going into S2 then well


The forums would’ve been on fire lol.

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the crowd against casuals and delves awarding good loot are stuck 15 years ago. blizz finally realized that they should probably invest some retention mechanic to their top earners which are the casual crowd who dont pause their sub 1 month after raid release. or obtaining 4400 M+ rating

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They explained how and why they been balanced or tuned the way they are in S2. The only one they seem to be really flip flopping on is Tanking Bran.

If this is directed to me, yes. :slight_smile:

Isn’t general. In fact I even separated some known posters and explicitly said they were different.

Has zero do with that. It’s literally the fact that delves are not hard enough to actually give hero track even in vault.

I’m not defensive at all non stating an obvious fact. The only people getting defensive are the ones who are worried about losing the easiest way to acquire hero track gear in the history of the game.

M+ is not hard enough to award mythic track in the vault

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The first 2 mythic raid bosses of every tier aren’t difficult enough to reward mythic track in the vault

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I haven’t been around for over a month, so I don’t know what was said.

You literally quoted me. Are you new to the internet?

Delves aren’t even close to being the same difficulty as mplus or heroic raiding. And that’s what most delvers are worried about. They enjoy the easiest access to hero track ever.

ok why is it a problem to you

because you’re a carry seller and you’re mad your profit has been plundered

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You keep repeating this yet still wrong and repeating it over and over again won’t magically make it true.

Sure the first few mythic bosses are generally easier but they still require optimization which delves don’t.