Omg ROOOOOD
But I’m dead 
the simple problem, Blizzard used as inclusive content the worst possible race that were the centaurs in Dragon isles as opposed to the centaurs of Desolace in the barrens.
Second, from the beginning it seems that Baine is being a worse waste than in Shadowlands in AFK, now I don’t know… what will be the lore that many have seen in this campaign.
In any case, it doesn’t matter, he is winning the totem weapon that was requested from vanilla as seen in Warcraft 3 Taurens, and was only seen once in npc in TBC, hopefully there are more models like a log model, but… That’s just what Baine did and I think nobody cared more than completing the quest and getting this gear.
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Baine gets to do a little racism as a treat.
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Bicker bicker bicker.
Huff. Puff.
Honor.
Friends.
Fin
This is kind of why it feels off. It’s a way back reference that pretty much ignores everything they’ve done with the character since back then. I get it, but it is Just kind of weird.
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Does it, though? Or does it show that even a person who’s been dedicating to turning the other cheek and doing the right thing over and over (and over and over again) can also still have a breaking point when it comes to something intensely personal to them?
He does eventually progress past it and move forward again, but they seem to be playing up the point that even Baine who is so forgiving that it’s been a meme for a while can also get tangled up in his own prejudices when it’s a situation that affected him personally and deeply, then didn’t really come up again for like twenty years.
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You mean like the murder of his father?
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Awesome. I hate the centaur.
Racism is bad storyline 
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Sometimes, maybe?
Baine was trying to hold the Tauren and the Horde together at the time. He probably despised Magatha for what she did, but at the same time, Grimtotem are Tauren under his leadership too and killing her could’ve potentially incited a civil war. In that instance, he put his anger and betrayal aside and did what he thought was right for his people.
Centaurs aren’t his people. Centaurs took him personally and did who even knows what to him. Now, for whatever reason, maybe because he didn’t lash out those other times and the passivity just built up in him to a breaking point where he was staring down an alliance with centaurs and just went, “Nah. Not this time. Hard nope.”
Trauma isn’t rational. Sometimes it hits you in some circumstances and not in others. Sometimes it sneaks up on you twenty years later. Do I think that Baine was being rational or doing the right thing? NOPE. But that’s not what the story of the questline is about. The story of the questline is about someone who’s normally otherwise rational making an irrational emotional decision because of their personal circumstances and then working through it.
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Sure, it isn’t rational. But basically every story involves trauma. We’ve seen this character react to trauma numerous times and we’ve seen them developed into a character we know though how they have processed these things. You can choose to handwave any incongruity in character development as “trauma isn’t rational” for literally any character in any story, but most people are going to call that out as less than ideal writing because it serves to push the reader away from understanding the character.
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Game story would be a lot better if they would just kill off Baine and give the Tauren an actual leader
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The whole horde “council” needs to gtfo and someone with actual guts needs to be put in charge, wich is hard, since all the leaders we have now are crybabies.
Thinking better, Talanji would fit well for warchief…
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Perhaps Baine finally reached a breaking point? He took the diplomatic approach at every turn and after all these failures he finds a species that almost drove his people to extinction running amuk and reaches a breaking point. I find that very believable actually.
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thats ridiculous. its not like anyone in real life sees people who share the same cultural background as people they view as absolute monsters and can’t see that maybe they aren’t as bad as the people who inflicted pain on them and that they need to grow past a black and white view of how these people are.
Clearly blizz is just making things up for drama.
As someone that had no idea of Baine’s backstory I enjoyed the questline, 2 new mogs and a new toy at the end was cool. I did find that he was a bit of a jerk throughout the questline but for someone that’s blissfully ignorant I enjoyed it.
best part is…this can’t be pinned on Afrasiabi.
Oh that old stuff wasn’t ion and Danuser. it was “that guy”. it was on the white board and in development…so we had to ride it out.
okay…so what is this? This is the afrasiabi free wow we were told would be good.
umm…we let the guy in the mailroom have a shot at this?
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Because what the Centaur did and what the Alliance did were entirely different. Despite Horde players wanting to believe that Taurajo was the worst genocide ever depicted in the game, worse then ten teldrassils in terms of lives lost, the Alliance allowed the Tauren to flee through gaps in their lines. Some of them led through Quillboar, which lead to some more casualties. The intent there was obvious, that this was a military maneuver meant to secure a strategic location without as much bloodshed as otherwise necessary.
The Centaur literally almost genocided the entire Tauren race to extinction. They apparently have nursery rhymes about how terrifying the Centaur were. If they did not have the protection of the Horde, they’d still be hunted by the Centaur to this day.
Yeah, Baine might be a little more personally biased towards a race of people who his people have known only as evil than a faction made up a bunch of different people, one of which he is friends with the King of because that King showed him great compassion and friendship.
Let me put it this way: The Alliance did a Taurajo. The Centaur did one hundred Taurajos over the span of many generations.
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I don’t believe them. They rewrote most of SL when “that guy” got fired. They both need to go.
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Yeah, that’s the thing. Baine has a reputation for diplomacy and being the voice of reason. That’s why this questline is totally off for his character. At the least, he needed someone to play off in dialogue that was not Tomul (who comes out looking like a million bucks for just taking the whole thing in a “and what’s his problem?” manner).
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