Who has the worst tier set abilities right now?

Affliction’s at least usually works across all damage profiles.

The Havoc 4pc literally does nothing on some fight timings. If the fight was already long enough to get two metas but isn’t long enough for 4pc to give you a third, the Havoc 4pc is literally useless.

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it’s not as underwhelming as it seems, seen some mages have INSANE dungeon boss dps because of stack debuffs with arcane lego’s. main problem is a burst dps set bonus, doesn’t help overall dps as much like shadow priest does having a very high uptime.

It really doesn’t, and I can’t stress this enough.

There is a reason aff is only taken to pantheon, and is about to lose placing to destro.

And?

Like I said: Havoc’s 4pc is literally useless in many situations. Affliction’s 4pc being even the slightest of DPS increases in those same situations makes it miles better than Havoc’s 4pc.

Whatever spec you like to play (not talking only to OP, but everyone).

It’s the exact opposite of terrible, in keys it provides you with a load of free holy power + free dmg mit in the 2 pc. Haven’t played prot in raid but don’t see how the set is terrible unless you have 0 mastery and spec blessed hammer.

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The only reason to ever spec Hammers in raid is to generate holy power before the pull. And 4pc does a good job at feeding you HP up the wazoo.

Arms.

50% more Tactician procs during Colossus Smash!

2 x 0 is still 0.

lmao.

What is the bm 4 piece? The holy paladin tier set outside of raid is absolutely worthless. If you are casting light of dawn in 5 man content we need to have a talk.

Yeah I didn’t think you specced blessed hammer was just trying to come up with a scenario where you had super low block chance.

:eyes: :popcorn:
enjoys going different talent now that druids can turn into tree with every 3 swiftmends for 9 seconds

The worst tier bonus is obviously the class you main while the best tier bonus is the class that last beat you in pvp.

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Damb you dc lag class! Broken tier nerf now!

This is a serious flaw in this game. BFA was years ago now. People don’t want to wait around for years for the class/spec they play to become relevant again. For as much Blizzard seems to cater to the top-end while neglecting the top-end, they also make it as unpleasant as possible to exist in the top-end.

The game should be more about skill

IMO KSM is not a very high bar to set

There are different Classes and specs. Someone has to be on top and someone has to be at the bottom. You want everyone on the top? It wont happen.

So you have to work harder, render more time. Have a lot of alts on your custody and use those who would be on meta.

Are you Casual? Then you dont have to worry of anything. The non hardcore content is doable with any spec/class. The sky is not falling.

No, I don’t. I want it to be vague as to who is on top. Maybe one class is better for this run and another is better for that. As of now we have classes with a 30%+ damage gap. This is absurd

You misunderstood me. “KSM is not a very high bar to set” mean’s it’s easy, not difficult. I am timing 20’s right now, is that casual?

As far as what you write about alts and playing those on meta: that’s exactly what I don’t like about this game. I’d rather pick the class/spec that resonates me and have my skill dictate how far I get. I think it’s dumb that picking a class is a part of how far one can get

Havoc’s is just dumb. Literally awful design. Never touched DH and had me scratching my head.

BM’s is underwhelming. That’s the word. Getting 4pc was not rewarding, if I didn’t run MM majority of the time I wouldn’t have bothered. The increase in DPS I got in BM is 20% of the increase I got in MM.

“Kill Command critical hits empower your next Cobra Shot or Multi-Shot, increasing the damage and cooldown reduction of Cobra Shot by 40% or causing Multi-Shot to grant an additional 6 seconds of Beast Cleave.”

It’s a QoL improvement and buffs a filler ability. It’s not catastrophic but in comparison to most other dps spec bonuses it does very little.

Outlaw, 8weeks of being broken and not working trumps Havoc’s weak-sauce…