Which is better for raids?

Destro or Affi? and which talents?

Affliction talents 3-3-2-2-2-2-3
Affliction is BIS for everything except for low m+ keys where destro and demonology are better because everything dies too fast.

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Better? Aff.
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While 5th row is technically X I’d personally advise 2 for everything lock everything these days but ya know… No biggie.

If you only go as far as heroic the gap between Aff and destro (and for that matter demo)closes a fair bit however so always remember to consider any and all advise here in context of you and your situation.
I am.not as familiar with destro know how but I believe the raid spec is
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Pve wise affliction is a couple percentage ahead of Destro for single target.

However the micro management to play it is harder than Destro.

Affliction damage basically revolves around maintaining your dots

Haunt
UA
Agony
Corruption
Siphon life

Keeping shadows embrace at three stacks

Once phantom singularity is off cd you want to have all dots refreshed before it comes off cd.

Pop doom glare pet and any damage modifiers you have (trinkets/racials/DS)

Use phantom singularity

Dump as many maleficts as possible in the PS window

Then resume maintaining dots/shadows embrace and saving shards for the next ps window.

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Affliction is definitely the leading spec in Castle Nathria and here’s why.
On a patchwerk fight where you don’t need to move at all and can just free cast for 6 minutes affliction edges out Destro but not by much at all. The issue in Castle Nathria is a lot of the bosses require a lot of movement, and as Destro the only thing you can really do while moving is cast conflag, whereas while your playing affliction you have 3 instant cast dots you can refresh while you’re moving.

For single target DPS in raid the best talent selection is

  • Drain Soul, it’s a good filler and it is really easy to maintain 3 stacks of shadows embrace with it compared using shadow bolt
  • Siphon Life, no reason to need permanent corruption, and while siphon life doesn’t do as much damage as taking write in agony, the extra rapture damage is more than wort hit
  • Burning rush, really useful for short bursts of movement on fights like Shriekwing, Inerva, Stone Legion General etc. Some players prefer Demon Skin but personally I’d take burning rush
  • Phantom Singularity, no reason to take vile taint or sow the seeds on single target
  • Mortal Coil, the 20% instant cast heal you get form mortal coil is really useful after taking damage from doing things like soaking orbs on Hungering Destroyer
  • Haunt, mathematically the 10% damage boost to your target will pull more DPS for you than Dark Caller or Grimoire of Sacrifice
  • Dark Soul Misery, same as above, with correct usage mathematically it will pull more DPS for you than either of the other 2 talents
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Boomkin.
1/2 the spells and none of the headache.

Win.

Close. Depending on the fight duration, you’re either rolling 1-1-X-3-2-1-(2 for longer, 3 for shorter or certain breakpoints). You might see some people roll with IC, but it honestly feels terrible to play and the sim vs actual disparity seems like it’s either oversimming or everyone sucks at using it effectively.

In raid, it’s Aff over Destro. The only meaningful niche that Destro has over Aff right now is mass AoE (which you really only see on SK) and bursting priority adds (Stone Legion, Inerva). Even then, Aff can get good add damage as well, and over a longer period of time they’ll actually pull ahead on add damage.