Which class has the worst defensives in the game

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until Dragonflight, it was shaman hands down imo.

now it really depends. Boomy has objectively bad defensives.

Is the match a bunch of pallys or mages into purge/MD? warr into rogue? etc, etc.

You can’t really point out a “Bad” defensive class because everything is situational. Boomy has just barkskin and renew, bear form, but they also have the most powerful cc in game and infinite kiting ability. (you just do no damage while doing it).

Then play a fire mage with 1 block info Disc/SP and its basically GG the moment you block unless your team can kick.

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Worst nightmare. I feel like im running for dear life vs 2 ooga booga priests with black holes chasing me and their hands hovering MD as they purge spam and cackle gleefully like “HAAAAALP” while the SP mindmelts me and im always thoughtstolen

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You play every class so have a more thorough understanding of how everything feels relative to each other. I see a lot of people that only (or mainly) play 1 class that just de facto think their class is the squishiest.

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Okay, let me be more specific.

Bubble, Block, Barkskin, PS, DP, Blink are all fine to be used during a stun. All of them have been that way. Bop yourself out of a stun. Bop during a warrior fear.

Wall for warlock has no reason to be useable during a cc. Same with dark pact. You want to live, pre the button, or die. Enraged regen from fury, etc.

Also

Full quote before you commented, given I edited it but it was there prior to the comment you made.

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The squishiest spec in the game? The unbiased and obvious answer is ret. I mean we’ve only got two or three immunities and a couple strong 1 min cd defensives, oh and a full heal. They should buff divine shield so it’s a 30 sec cd that lasts for 35 seconds, it’s mass dispellable so it’s fair trust me. Anyone who disagrees just can’t handle the truth

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meanwhile, I see people say eles need less roots and slows… but I have gotten absolutely ranthrough harder than a rave girl at tomorro world by DH/arms/BM.

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11.0.7 ret rework leaked

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Yeah in 10.0.7 everyone lost their minds cause ret was finally playable!

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Can I have it?

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Maybe this is why you feel warrior is so squishy then

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I’m not sure about MOST biased but definitely up there with mages and rogues.

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what? ignore pain is literally 400k every 11 seconds… lol 2 mil wtf.

I’ve also heard its counted as a heal and affected by dampening… not sure about truth to that

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I never said warrior is squishy :(.

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My mistake, apologies.

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an honest mistake, all warriors look the same to us just as all monks look the same to them

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I don’t think anyone would have a problem pointing me out in a lineup.

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Warrior hands down

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Customary warlock rant inc.

Our big wall is 3 mins cd and gives a 40% dr & dark pact costs 20% current hp which becomes objectively worse as dampening stacks, same for healthstone.

So although our passive tankiness is relatively high ( albeit also affected by damp), our actives cds are on the weaker side of things, with 3 mins wall being the longest non full-immunity cd.

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wdym built around it. It’s just rpg flavor.

Locks have at diff spectrums of mobility, passive tankiness, CC, self healing etc and UR is always usable during stuns

You just said mages vs no purge are unkillable and they too have had times where they can just sit and face tank everything while still having extraordinary defenses usable while stunned.

Shaman had Shamanistic Rage usable during stuns and that was removed eons ago, all the while having only Astral Shift for a long time and not much else (access to burrow, bulwark, ancestral guidance are all recent additions)

for a little while we had a 5m cd wall attached to earth ele that could be used while stunned if the ele wasnt CC’d and that was removed.

Its completely arbitrary

Only thing that makes sense as “built around” is disperse for Spriest is