When we buy an expansion it should be 100% finished

You can, but when you place that opinion on a public discussion board, other people can then offer their opinion of your opinion. Sometimes those other people might have a opinion that disagrees with yours.

What you seem to be looking for is an echo chamber.

I’d rather they keep adding new content and changes through patches then having to wait 4 years between content updates.

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That’s new? I thought that was how it’s been since BC and the whole reason Blizz started gating things.

There will always be people who want more features or upset some features aren’t in and label it as unfinished.

So you wanna please everyone by making them wait longer? It’ll become disappointing everyone by making them wait longer.

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I mean, we got that anyway. Might as well have it be awesome when it releases.

That’s a super dishonest way of interpreting his point.

He’s saying that we can’t be having Ion admitting, after a year, that the game has problems. He’s saying that the game should have addressed the concerns alpha and beta testers had. He’s saying that it’s a ripoff to have to wait a year for Ion to finally realize there are problems with BfA.

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^The operative line from the OP.

Maybe if you’d clarify exactly what you’re asking for, myself and some others might have a conversation for you.

But I’m guessing that’s not going to happen.

See? It’s not just me questioning your viewpoint.

But if you’d rather just name call and throw a tantrum OP, okay then.

Not really. We got a couple of patches of stuff. Whether we liked it or not is a different story. Heh.

Awesome, sure. But one and done for like two years? I couldn’t do it.

It’s not dishonest. It was a question for clarification.

And that makes sense. Thank you for that viewpoint. I remember how Shamans were so bad when the expansion first released and how long it took them to fix it. Things like that, absolutely should be addressed.

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Halfpint, if anything, you’re the one looking for an argument. Rhielle is asking for clarification. Is that so bad?

Personally, I think having a clear end point is good. But not for two years.

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Ya, really.

Not what anyone is saying, here, don’t twist the narrative.

The nature of an MMORPG is to give people reasons to keep logging in regularly, not to give people an epic adventure to sprint through, maybe even a couple times to experience it in different ways, then put on a shelf like a standard RPG.

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Enekie gave an explanation to me as to what was probably meant by the OP. So in that respect, you’re right, too many things not addressed before release.

I wasn’t twisting anything. I was thinking differently about what was being asked for when I didn’t understand what the OP was looking for. Enekie helped with that.

So we get all the expansion content at once and they sit around for a year waiting for the next one? Thanks but I will take the current process myself.

Idk why all these people are jumping down your throat. You asked a question for clarification…

The ops comments don’t sound like they have anything to do with Ions recent address towards class design. I interpreted it the same way you did, complaining that we have to wait for patches to get new content.

Props to you for defending yourself and responding to some people that are clearly trolls though. I’d have just left the thread and not come back.

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I agree with what you’re trying to say, but I don’t think that’s the best example to use to use to gather sympathy for software developers.

I was glad to finally get clarification. Also happy to know it wasn’t just me who misunderstood. Hehehe.

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I don’t mind the way Blizzard deliverers WoW expansions and patches. It makes the expansion feel more dynamic and alive. What I would like for Blizzard to do with expansions, is to listen to the players feedback on the PTR, so we don’t get another BfA type expansion.

What you’re looking for is a single player game with no dlc.

If ever “You think you do, but you don’t” unironically applied to a topic, it would be this one.

Actually, they pinpointed the Boeing’s decision-making process as the cause, not necessarily the software. It was designed for limited use but the lead Boeing test pilot, techs and management in the chain expanded its use without knowing how it worked. Their ultimate goal was to get more sales of their jets by minimizing pilot training costs.

Good non-technical article in the NYT. Interesting section:

A test pilot who originally advocated for the expansion of the system didn’t understand how the changes affected its safety. Safety analysts said they would have acted differently if they had known it used just one sensor. Regulators didn’t conduct a formal safety assessment of the new version of MCAS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/business/boeing-737-max-crash.html

I was familiar with the plane incident and its causes, but perhaps I don’t actually understand the point you were trying to make.