Again, gold (gil) is almost never used for actual game progression, unlike WoW.
You got, what, like 1 weapon per raid tier, and you can easily earn enough money to buy one in a couple weeks without any extra retainers or anything like that.
And what exactly do you need to hold onto that 500+ slots is not enough for you? Sheesh.
FFXIV has a completely different inventory system. If you are stressing for bag space you arenât playing correctly.
And despite that, they still give you like 500 slots of inventory space with the character + 2 free retainers.
â125 in the characterâs inventory (IIRC, it might be 150, been awhile)
â 2x175 from the 2 retainers
â80 from the chocobo saddlebag
~550.
Considering one of the main selling points for the game is housing and crafting. Gil and bag spaces are very important.
Especially when you have all profs and all classes on one character.
Iâm not hating, I enjoyed savage raiding. But FF charges money for stupid things just like wow.
At least wow is typically 1 time purchase and not additional monthly charges.
Time to level new character in WoW: Acceptable
Time to level new character in FF14 without paying for a skip: Egregious
Iâll take that free phantasia please.
Thereâs very rarely a need to level a new character. Usually, people only do it to re-experience the story again, like Iâm doing with an alt of mine (canât say I ever made a new WoW character to âre-experience the story againâ, lol)
At least you donât have to keep rolling new characters to do crafts and classes, lol.
New characters that have to slog through quests and level up over and over again and then at some later expansion when they kill alt friendliness, you abandon the characters you canât take care of anymore, and end up with 30 some characters that have fallen way behind, etc.
I wish I could just have 1 character in WoW that could have all the professions and classes.
Because in one of those games, your race is more than cosmetic and determines your characterâs class selection, base stats, and several abilities that can heavily impact how it plays from a character of the same class, but a different race. Even two decades later, the devs donât want you switching to whichever race mathematically performs the best on a specific raid encounter without either making, leveling, and gearing a new character or paying a hefty fee.
Hereâs a more fair deconstruction:
Time to level new character in WoW: Acceptable
Time to level new character race change once in FF14 without paying for a skip it: Acceptable
Folks pretending that FF14 isnât a game looking to create profit and also completely fails to understand basic marketing and applicable psychology: People in this thread, such as OP and others
Both are fine, but folks seriously need to drop the tribalistic trolling.
Are we playing the same game?
Because I do seem to remember them heavily watering down class abilities and making them of very little consequence compared to how they were in the past.
Wasnât trying to troll at all, I was merely suggesting that maybe Blizz ought to step back and think âmaybe weâre charging just a wee too much for some of this stuffâ, because FFS, have you looked at the prices in the WoW Shop lately? Theyâre kind of ridiculous across the board.
But, true to the nature of oboards, people get all worked up when you suggest that the very game that most of them whine about day in, day out, is doing something not as good as another game, suddenly WoW is the bestest game ever with no flaws, lol.
Not really. The game really canât make me do anything with this.
I can level up a new toon or just not play that race.
Maybe itâs symbolism to take the fight to AI.
Square-Enix, like any other game developer, likes making references to previous games of theirs. Said references are all through XIV, pretty much every single FF game has references in XIV, because these are games people love, and fans of said games enjoy seeing references.
The Pictomancer class is an FF6 reference and FF6 is probably in the top 5 in everybodyâs âFavorite FFâ list.
/shrug
Not that hard to see where it came from.
This is a non problem. Go play FF.
The FF14 target audience cares way more about their character model than WoWs target audience. This is literally all it comes down to.
Is $25 for a race change criminal? It should be. But youâre being unfairly biased towards FF14.
Maybe WoWâs audience would care more about their character model, if the character models were actually good, lol
You clearly donât know the WoW audience.
If anything people would vote to bring back the 2004 square hands and feet models.
Probably, because some of the updates to the models that were supposed to be âimprovementsâ do actually look worse than the originals.
Canât say I blame that sentiment. Some of the things they did with some of the races donât look all that good, to be quite honest.
And thereâs also the uncanny valley aspect too, like, itâs obviously an old outdated graphics engine, and they are trying their darnedest to make faces and stuff look more realistic, but it comes across as being rather ick.
Theyâd need a complete graphical overhaul, like, new engine, to actually improve the character models and not have them look eeew.
I know of some of the complaints against the dracâthyr, I just donât share some of those opinions.
And I rolled a dracâthyr, but if you notice, sheâs still sitting at level 60. I rolled her because âplayable dragonâ and⌠well, like weâve been talking about, itâs not about what the race looks like, but what it is ⌠itâs a playable dragon. /shrug
Obviously.
But that also doesnât mean that it is âstupidâ to add such references, when people clearly enjoy them.
I say this, as a guy who loves WoW, XIV, the races in both and that includes dracthyr.
But saying âif the character models were actually goodâ while playing dracthyr of all things isâŚjust peak.
Race is a bigger deal in FF because you have 1 toon.
Also the FF cash shop is massive and sells WAY more things than WoW.
Also it sounds like they are just completing the half finished race they launched with.
âŚ'Cept i donât play any of their final fantasy games, so i donât know what itâs suppose to be a reference to begin with.