When Sylvanas wins

Why did the Dark Lady burn the tree…

The original plan was to kill Malfurion or Tyrande or both, plus the loss of Kaldorei lands would deal a mortal blow to the Kaldorei nation and splinter the Alliance.

Because Saurfang failed to deliver the killing blow to Malfurion , it meant that the Kaldorei would most likely recover and the Alliance would not split. Sylvanas was pissed that Saurfang had failed to kill Malfurion and was looking for a way to inflict " a wound that would not heal". Thats where Delaryn comes in.

Did the dying night elf Delaryn piss off Sylvanas ? perhaps a smigin, but what Delaryn gave to Sylvanas was the how, she might inflict a wound upon the Kaldorei nation that would not heal… Burn the tree down and everything in it.

The other reason Sylvanas had for burning the tree, was to make peace impossible between the Horde and Alliance.

The short story from Blizzard explaining the why is a decent read
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There is no hope for these people that’s why they need to be blighted

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Blight today, Blight tomorrow, Blight forever !

Victory for Sylvanas!

Because she’s an idiot that doesn’t know how to manage her resources or people.

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I second the motion :squid: …of the ocean

The thing is she has to win. That is just how it goes. The reason is simple.

Blizzard has for last 4 expansions has been building up alliance heroes and leaders into demi gods and gods. To the point it becoming a problem. The players have started asking and rightly so why is the alliance not completely winning.

The horde side they been killing off heroes and power hitters like a bag of Cheetos at gaming convention. It now at the point there really no one left. They ignored the horde for so long. They have no one who can stand up to them. Even Sylvanas might not be able to for that matter.

BFA should of been focusing on building up the horde. Zappy boy, the new forsaken, and other. Instead they either killed off or part of a rebellion. To me it makes no sense. They needed these to help the horde. Not to kill off.

At present. If they kill off and looks like it. Two or more in this expansion. Horde is done for. They do not have anything to stand up to any type of threat.

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If Sylvanas “wins”, won’t all characters in both factions be converted into zombie-slaves for the next expansion? Don’t know if I’d want to play a whole expansion of DK starting zone, but I’d probably try it out at least.

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Remember that time a villain won in WoW?

Yeah, me neither.

Farewell another horde hero- hello being Saurfang and Baine’s Alliance b*#$#es.

Sylvanas is not a horde hero.

She’s an Anti-hero at best.

She should have stayed dead after Icecrown.

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I love the Horde logic of “If Saurfang had just killed Malfurion, then Teldrassil wouldn’t have burned!” As if killing a major Alliance leader wouldn’t have the same consequence. As if Tyrande and the Alliance would have been “Oh, it was just Malfurion? Horde took over an Alliance capital and is currently occupying Night Elf ancestral land? Okay then! Carry on! Please continue to subjugate and kill our people!”

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I think the Tuarens and Blood elf’s would not allows this to happen. They would stop any unnecessary killing.

I think that implies that the writers don’t write everyone as Sylvanas’s b***ch. But they do so it’s more likely the Tauren and Blood Elves will be good little arrows in her quiver.

That we never know. There been no quest directly from her. There has been zero communication at all from her. Just bits and pieces here and there. What been shown is that she been worried about the war. That it was not going good. Now she has a plan to turn around. I am still looking for this craziness everyone speaking of.

The problem i think. In real life people do not know or experiences what it like to live near special people. Were i live now. There pretty much everywhere. At first i was nervous . Then found out not bad people. They warn you of the ones to stay away from. Then do have quirks and stuff. Some make movies seem normal. Those should be put far away. They already get arrested on a semi weekly bases. Now i seen it first hand. I can spot it.

Not sure what you mean by “speacial people” there’s nothing speacial about being a sociopath, anyone can become one given the right circumstances. Instant sociopath just add trauma! That’s what I always say.

Sylvanas is just that, there was a period where Blizzard could have done something else with her, but that time has passed. I wouldn’t believe it if they tried to write her a redemption arc now.

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That the problem she not a sociopath in any way shape or form or insane. Been around insane people and can tell you that she not. Special people are the insane people with violent tendency. I guess i have to spell it out.

Now is she Evil. Yeah done so many quest to say that. That does not in any way says she insane. She has not done anything to indicate it. Unless you or anther player here is a qualified to say she is. Then i just ignore it. Based on my life experiences.

Now if you going to say i support her. i do not. I support current war chief.

Pretty sure she has violent tendencies, since she blew up a tree on a whim.

Sylvanas fanbois - Its always Alliance complaining Sylvanas want “death to the living”. Its only them she wants to kill, not us Horde.
OG Horde - um Baine?
Sylvanas fanbois - he doesn’t count.
OG Horde - umm Zelling?
Sylvanas Fanbois - He was a traitor.
OG Horde Horde combatants?
Sylvanas fanbois - they were dead anyway
OG Horde - when she kills you?
Sylvanas fanbois - I would gladly die and delete my character forever if it could be at the hands of my love Sylvanas.

Yeah supporting Sylvanas is so rational almost all of the other Horde leaders have already turned against her.

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The burning of the tree was a military move on her part. Now if you look at conversation. They had together. The elf open her eyes about the horde and alliance relationship. That when she said oh really you can not kill hope. Burning tree was in effect a bridge burning event. It something you do that can never be forgiven.

This event as she saw it will end any hope of the horde or alliance working or coming together in peace. The reason why is peace never last. That the hatred was just too deep. She is partial right. Unfortunately the alliance will always forgive sadly.

Now what you can say. The director of the film did do is what called over dramatic the scene. I am guessing to stir the pot so to speak. I would not done that way. The effect did seem to work.

Not according to everyone else I’ve talked to it wasn’t. According to everyone else who played the cutscene it was simply a decision Sylvanas made because she was angry. Also that cutscene is all we have as canon. So dramatic it may be, but it’s what happened like it or not it’s canon.

Personally I think Tyrande should have been the target all along since it doesn’t make sense for Horde Druid Players to be on board with killing Malfurion given their standing with the Cenarion Circle. Not to mention as a general rule Malfurion is way too busy to be an actual threat so long as you don’t antagonize him. Saurfang was smoking some crack when he came up with that plan and I’m not entirely sure crack is even smokeable.

Sylvanas literally wants to KILL hope. She killed her own civilians who wanted to join their living families in Arathi. She burned down Teldrassil because life brings hope. She constantly gaslights the Horde into believing the Alliance wants to wipe them out just so that they can go to war.

If that’s not the workings of a sociopath, I don’t know what is.

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