You mean canonically, for playable? Much like you technically, still can’t be ere’dar, man’ari, etc because it doesn’t pop up on char chreation, or?
You just can’t. Unlike Man’ari, which are available as customization for Draenei, you simply can’t play a Worgen that isn’t a Human that caught the Worgen Curse.
I wish we could, I would love to play a Night Elf Worgen, but alas, only Human Worgen are playable.
There’s no Man’ari, just red skin customization technically.
If your definition of, anything that’s in game is a-go, then TRP counts and you definitely can. Where do you draw the line at what’s considered canon and what’s considered ‘playable race’?
At the end of the day the worgen are Gilnean people, even if a Gilneas citizen doesn’t have the curse or show that they do that changes nothing they’re still Gilnean. Darius may of had issues with Genn but who wouldn’t be mad at the king for shutting them all off from the outside world and their allies when a time of crisis happens like famine. I don’t see Darius throwing a fit about Tess being queen of Gilneas, someone else idk but Darius happily served Genn after the opening questline for worgen. If anything he hated Crowley and it’s possible one of the two lords who aided Crowley’s rebellion might try to dethrone Tess but we’ll see. Tess had to learn that the curse isn’t what she needed to understand her people, to love her people cursed or not… it was a rite of passage for her and I think she’ll do wonderfully. More so if she can get Goldrinn to grant the worgen a boon that results in optional tails and upright posture
The game quite literally calls it Man’ari.
https://i.imgur.com/Un4NCDD.png
My definition is: What race do you turn into when you use the Two Forms racial to transform into your original form?
It’s always human. There isn’t an option to transform into a Night Elf.
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‘Appearance’, not that they are.
Does wearing a different race’s mask for Hallow’s Eve make them that race?
Technically, if you boost or choose Exile’s Reach as Gilnean and don’t go through that whole ordeal, what is your ‘original form’?
Does that mean Dracthyr are technically Elves/humans, because their out of combat form is different choice? Or is their original form a vial, since they were technically created and not birthed? You haven’t laid down any guidelines for your definitions.
Use the Two Forms racial and find out 
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So Dracthyr are Elves/Humans, and not Dracthyr? If I mod it, to change what the two forms racial shows, that means my character is whatever race I chose for it then canonically? This is why I ask what your guidelines and definitions for the words are.
Bingo.
I don’t know why this isn’t better understood by others.
It’s just a curse that these Humans are carrying.
The Dracthyr visage isn’t even human/elf, cause humans and elves don’t have scales.
Plus, it’s just that. A visage.
Worgen have a Worgen form and a Human form. All playable Worgen are Humans that contracted the Worgen curse.
If you disagree with that, I’m sorry but we aren’t playing the same game and nothing I say will convince you. So I’m getting off of this discussion now. It’s been a fun waste of time, but it has run it’s course
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Uh… what?
If you make your Draenei red skinned, they’re considered Ma’nari and even have the fel broken rune for their racial.
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No
- The LF Draenei are led by Captain Fareeya, a LFD.
- Turalyon is a LF Human, not a Human.
She is thier leader by marriage, which happens in fantasy worlds with kingdoms, just like it did back in the day.
Based on the fact that she is not a Worgen. Which the Heritage quest shows just how different their struggles are to humans like Tess.
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In case of the worgen their human form is like a visage as at the end of the day they’re worgen and will always be worgen but can turn human to not scare folk who might be scared of a big werewolf walking around. Yes they were humans who contracted a curse, yes they’re still gilneans but they don’t count as humans anymore.
Though, wouldn’t that put all the elves into the troll boat, among other things, or it would all be about where someone is from and not the race. Which is fine, but it doesn’t seem to really occur in Azeroth.
Not really no as trolls becoming elves wasn’t caused by a curse that was forced upon them. Those trolls who became Elves willingly did that to themselves. Worgen for the most part, except the OG NE worgen who aren’t around right now, were humans that got bit or scratched and turned into worgen. Many of said worgen went feral and got hunted but still the worgen we got currently are and always shall be Gilnean people. They’re Tess’s people and she loves all her people equally whether they’re worgen or not
That’s not the race, though. They’re still Draenei if you check or even mouseover. If what you appear as, currently, is what matters then guess what? That’s why I’m making the argument and asking for things to be clearly defined.
They’re Ma’nari. Which are demon Draenei.
I don’t even understand this.
You went way off the reservation with whatever you’re trying to prove.
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Lorna Crowley isn’t a Worgen either, so I’m not sure I get the logic of Tess not being a Worgen disqualifying her from being able to lead her people
Gilneas is populated by Gilneans, not Worgen only
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Doesn’t say so. They only APPEAR so, which is it?
I’m asking if it’s about appearance, or people using another definition like what the player says their race is or if it’s about where they’re from, or what they’re derived from.
Not at all.
I’m not understanding. The customization name is Ma’nari. The fel rune change to the racial solidifies the difference between uncorrupted and corrupted Draenei.
Though I still have no clue what this has to do with Worgen.
You do understand that gameplay mechanics and lore are two different things, right? So the argument doesn’t make sense.
Considering after reading all of your posts I have no clue what you’re even trying to do at this point and you’ve made some really confusing and weird comments… yep.
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