Citation please!
This guy here is still clinging to the Bellular clickbait that took numbers from warcraftlogs/raider.io/wowarmory. Speculation (with a bit of logic behind it sure) as no one has true subscriber count. They went from wow lost about 50% of the playerbase to wow lost about half of the endgame content playerbase. Then get all huffy and puffy when anyone mentions WoW East and their logic is well we can’t play with wow east players so they don’t matter. Though they are clickbaiting a doom and gloom story to lead the audience to assume that wow is really suffering and some may even say that it might die. However we have no idea the numbers for WoW East and for all we know they might be more than enough profitable to keep the game going even if all of NA EU and oceanic quit.
Numbers spun to fit a trendy narrative to get clicks.
Turn to the auctionhouse economic data in the game is a better estimate to how the game is doing. I know for one thing bots aren’t buying raid consumes or old world transmog items and they are still selling fine. I WISH wow was in peril maybe the bots would move over to another game, but they are still RIGHT HERE where the money is at.
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The 9.1.5 patch will bring all 10 million subs back.
Every person gets huffy-puffy whenever you dispute the easily disputable clickbait video. He did the video for shock value and clickbait.
I don’t know what angered me more, because two plausible options played out: Them getting huffy puffy because someone was mean to them when destroying their hard work or Them doing a terrible job of acting huffy and puffy to keep up the façade to not look like clickbaiters which they are known to do in the first place. Was really luke warm especially when they used the word copium. At that point I felt like the whole thing was a performative crock.
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As you frantically cling to Izen Hart, who literally said:
“DISCLAIMER: The point of the original video is correct, I don’t think anyone would debate the lower engagement metrics of the game right now or at the very least the general negative atmosphere around the game”
original video, as in, Bellulars video.
Stop using, “b-but what about China!” as a defense for this game clearly losing people.
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How I imagine what is going through the mind of the OP as they worry about how long the patch will take to get here.
I feel like Shadowlands is a done deal at this point for the majority that have already left. The only way Blizzard pulls those people back in is with a new expansion that is heavily developed based on player feedback. Hell, they could even bring in multiple popular WoW players for consulting and spin the next expansion as “the players expansion”.
Even if 9.1.5 does come out, will it retain the player base until the next expansion?
September 28th, to be precise. Because Blizzard “never times their releases around other games”… except for all the times that they do 
9.1.5 would likely bring back a lot of people, but to hold them for another year alone? Nope. Would need 9.2 and 9.3.
no, it won’t
there’s no new content to do. Switching covenants and getting different customizations isn’t gameplay.
as much as i hate to bring content creators into this, Asmongold did say it best:
“Shadowlands was at a -5/10, now its at a 0”
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Hm. A lot of you can’t accept that fact that your favorite game has seen a mass exodus.
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How fast are we talking about? Faster, than a speeding bullet fast? Asking for a friend.
I don’t think that’s a safe assumption to make.
People can’t have left, because no one has ever left the game. Even people who said goodbye and haven’t been seen since didn’t leave, because some guy in wrath said goodbye every time he took a break and then came back later.
The game is now designed for two groups: cyclical players, who buy every game based on hype, play for a few weeks, and then move on, and those who continue to play, who are so addicted they will never leave no matter how low the bar is set.
This is about as deep as the devs’ understanding of human nature goes.
Yeah. A lot of people always up and leave WoW a few months after an expansion comes out. It is what it is.
9.1.5 probably ends up an Oct release IMO but with this dev team it can turn into a November release LMAO.
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9.1.5 will determine whether i renew in jan
I love these “The game is dead!” posts, when anytime I go to Korthia, my game lags horribly because of how many people are at some of the rares.
Even when I play at 3-4 AM realm time, most of the zones have quite a bit of people in them, and that’s just my realm.
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The OP has a point here, my guild is disbanding in 2 weeks for FFXIV, me and only few others will continue playing to enjoy our new Void elf customizations.