I did that grind two times on retail tbc. lucky enough small sever (zuluhead) and I was horde. Still a pain lol 
Because cheaters have modified the client interface program to make it do things the standard client won’t do, and the server doesn’t do strict checking to deny bogus requests.
For example, when you are in town and click on a mailbox, the client program tells the server “Hey, I’m at a mailbox, please show me my mail.” Normally, the only way to initiate this action is to actually be standing at a mailbox, because that’s the only time the client will show a mailbox cursor.
But what if you modified the client so it could ask the server to show mail anytime, no matter where you were? And what if the server always honored that request because it trusts that you’re standing next to a mailbox, without actually checking?
This is a silly made-up example, but it shows the basic principles that let people cheat.
And we know for a fact that this kind of thing has happened. Back in Vanilla, raiders in the guild <Overrated> edited the AQ40 map files on their local PCs to remove some walls, so they could walk straight to the end boss and skip a whole lot of super annoying trash mobs.
And this worked because the server doesn’t do terrain/path checking – it trusts the client interface program to restrict player movement to only allowed areas.
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So where do you actually get your hacks from? Are they expensive?
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Everytime someone cries bot boogeyman it makes it harder for Blizzard to pinpoint the real problems and to figure out how they’re actually cheating.
Right now people are blaming bots for everything. Missed a lotus? bot. Can’t find plaguebloom? bot. Someone undercut your auction even if just by a few gold? bot. Playing on a megaserver with 9k people and you see 80 people farming in a zone? bots.
Until people learn to stop calling bot boogeyman for everything and actually start being honest when they actually see bots, the real bots are going to continue undetected.
The best thing anyone can do to deal with actual cheaters is submit tickets each time you see a bot, and be as specific and concrete as absolutely possible. Don’t leave out any details, times, places, names, actions, anything you can observe should be in that ticket.
Submitting tickets with one to two words like “bot” or “bot farmer” or “fly hacker” does nothing so people who submit tickets like that shouldn’t be surprised when nothing happens.
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Oh by pure luck. I was searching for a mage in sw, his name was literally on my who list when he appeared right in front and picked a lotus. Wasn’t there, then instantly boom there. Was a trip.
Go to ZG, front or back.
Or go to the STV graveyard on the north end, you’ll see it plenty
So you just happend to do a /who mage stormwind and immediatly find a black lotus in some other zone right after and then a mage on your /who mage stormwind list just happened to appear instantly at your black lotus? Lol ok sure… cool story bro.
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The point of playing TBC would be for hybrid characters to have choice of playstyle instead of always having to heal bot.
At least in PvE anyway.
Most bots dont want to be seen. The problem with classic is that resources have far more value than in later versions of the game. Think about how much players use potions and consumables in Classic. Then factor in TBC that you can use 2 elixir or one flask. The major mats market just sank.
I would bet that if bots are looking to sell gold it would be closer to farming older content. That or blizzard will introduce the Classic token or something
I am most afraid of the bots that stay underground and pick herbs/veins…
I have seen bots doing the superman and literally picking a node in EPL from the top of the world, but never underground.
Why make money when people steal?
Why play sports when people use steroids
Why play games when people cheat
Why be honest when people lie
At some point, you just gotta accept that other people are gonna do their thing and not let it dictate your own life or you’re never gonna get past your front door. Though for a lot of people here, I suppose thats already kind of a thing…
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I think you’re missing the bigger picture. There’s no reason to play a competitive game that has rampant cheating. There are other game options out there and once people realize a company has very little in the ways if anti-cheat protection in game they tend to move on. Isn’t that what happened with the highly popular pubg?
Stealing will eventually result in jail time.
Major sports have drug testing.
Lies come to light by knowing the facts.
Overall what I’m saying is when there is no proper policing of a system, the system becomes so corrupt it isn’t worth using, at least in games where there are a multitude of other options.
In a perfect world that happens though in a perfect world people also dont do those things. Since we live in a flawed word, the systems and people that are supposed to do something about this are probably doing the job on some level. The cat and mouse of doing this work is always going to be build a better bot to beat the anti cheat.
There is a clear lack on blizzards end to hire more people when they think there automated system can handle it though it would seem the botters just use volume in order to bypass the issue. Have enough accounts through VPN and maybe you lose a few but you have back ups or level up quickly again so can get into operation again.
How teleport hacks last more than a week is beyond me though. Yet this seems to be an issue for most companies at some point.
I dont think its a stretch to say that. the majority of the time when people lie, cheat or steal they are never caught. It is an inescapable part of interacting with your fellow humans. You can accept that it happens and move on with your life, or you can curl up in the fetal position and cry about it. Either way, the only one affected is you. Pretty much everyone else, particularly the liars, cheaters and thieves won’t even notice. Now if it’s running rampant to the point the whole system is at risk of breaking down that’s one thing… But very very seldom does anything reach that point before natural forces correct, and it’s certainly not the case here with WOW>
prolly nerfed, that’s what we got for c’thun
If someone stole your wallet right in front of a cop, you’d expect the officer to do something. Instead if the officer told you “Thanks for the taxes I could do something but I just don’t care”, then you could compare that to how blizzard treats cheaters in this game. You can literally go to the places that we have mentioned, and see them doing it 24/7 and if you add them to friends, expect to see them on for the next few weeks.
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Its sad that private servers had much better security than Blizzard has for the real servers.
But the people who ran the private servers didnt make any type of profit from those bot accounts and mutlibox accounts.
Thats basically the reason why bots, multiboxers and other cheaters are running rampant in Classic, all those accounts are just another free $15 a month for blizzard.
I remember bots and multiboxers being instantly banned on private servers once they were caught. There was no money to be made from those accounts and it also caused chaos on the server to have tons of people running bots and be multiboxing everywhere you look.
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Poor analogy. It’s more like, you went to a cop and said that guy stole my wallet. The cop isnt going to run right over and throw the guy in jail for a year, even if you claim to have a video of him stealing it. There is a process… At best, he’ll start the investigation. But the video will need to be vetted, he’ll get his opposing argument and day in court etc etc. Likely he’ll be out on bail within hours and and there’s even a chance, if they believe hes part of a larger group of thieves, that they wont even arrest him at all but will continue monitoring him to catch the biggest fish.
Despite your hyperbolic responses, THAT is more akin to how Blizz treats cheaters. But I get you’re too emotional to see the forest for the trees right now.
You’re comparing security in a rich gated neighborhood to policing Chicago… They are radically different, in scale, funding and demographics.
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