It scales for hybrid builds better
Frostfire bolt benefits from fire and frost talents.
This means it can get the 100% bonus crit damagr from frost, and the ignite 40% bonus damage, and other talents.
It is bad now because it is a spell that is supposed to take off at 60.
How you choose to count it doesn’t change facts. Mage is not the only class to have 19 runes.
LOL only thing you could reply to because you got destroyed on every other point. GGs. Enjoy being mad.
/sigh
No I was just watching Xaryu try to kill the STV boss and got tired of debating good design with you.
There’s no world where Frostfire performs well currently, in your head or in game. Any argument that you make that posits that FFB rune is fine but other runes aren’t up to par to support it, like FOF, also makes you inconsistent. Why is your opinion on one rune a better basis for argument vs actual math on the non-viability of FFB?
You have spent your time today in this thread showing that you will use whatever you can use to cope. It’s not a good rune. Giving us more runes than (most) other classes when the rune isn’t useful in one single scenario would be a waste of effort on the part of the devs. The reality is that it’s poorly thought out, poorly scaled, and compete trash right now. Any argument you made otherwise is simply what you hope it will be, and good game design relies on more than hoping it can be good in the future.
So with that said, I simply decided you were no longer worth arguing with. You take is bad. Your philosophy on what constitutes good class design and mine are incompatible.
Right now? Nothing we don’t have the talents to support splitting between two trees.
It should of been a rune at level 60. Would be a great spell for Elemental Mage to use taking benefit from all the fire and frost talents combined.
Someone and I already told you. It’s a great rune to circumvent resistances when farming in the open world. Sorry it’s not the bis rune in the slot, Mr. Main Character.
Coping super hard. SUPER. Hard.
https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/79147116
https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/79147116#bybracket=1
Literally argued what it is. A niche rune so that if you’re full fire/frost/arcane out in the open world, and come upon resists or immunes, you can still effectively deal damage. Not every rune has to be tuned for raiding. Jeez you’re dense. I literally don’t care if its good or not. People asked what its for and I told them, and gave an example of what it -could- be in the future and you’re here sperging out because you want to play FFB and its bad. The audacity to say I’m the one coping when I literally could not care less.
So you linked me logs where you don’t even use the Rune, what’s that prove?
If it’s just “look at me I average 88 so what I say must be true”
https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/crusader-strike/chanye#spec=Healer&class=Mage&metric=hps
I have an 89 average, less than 1 full point above you, does that make me right?
What do logs prove?
My mage is only 28 so i have limited exp with him atm but I use spellfrost because it slows and I get + health because it’s also arcane.
Bro… you are top three one of the densest people I’ve met on these forums.
Me not using the rune… is LITERALLY the point.
I. Don’t. Care. The entire point, AS I SAID, was I’m completely happy playing pure fire.
(Also, your 89 is at 40 gs, my 88 is at 35. Big difference. GGs though.)
I literally just answered some people’s question about the point of a rune and you’re in here raging about FFB/SFB being bad. Then don’t use it. Its niche. It has a purpose now, and it will be good in the future if MC resistances remain the same.
100% I leveled as fire with FFB because of the chill effect. It was BIS.
OMG CHANYE, ANOTHER USE FOR FFB. IMAGINE THAT!
they released it too early, will be really good at 50-60 when you can actually make a hybrid spec. there are a few frost/fire specs that try to insta proc it though.
Not every rune needs to be tuned or designed for raiding, or even pvp. FFB was a godsend during leveling because you got to play as pure fire and still had a chill effect on mobs. Just a poor mindset.
I agree with this.
I don’t really think that my first comment in this thread really constituted “raging”.
If anything, like my gf when i only reply to one part of her question:
People tend to forget that Blizz stated in an interview, just days before SoD launch, that they are introducing balancing changes with level 60 performance in mind.
At level 60 you can make it slap real hard with the bonus crit damage in the frost tree, and get 10% hit for free.
then give us level 60, lol.
bad planning on Blizzards part.
Classic attracted the original player base, and was for the original player base not the retail players that need a million seizure inducing flashes on their screen.
Classic+ would be a refinement of the original, and not for you.
LOL sure. Blizz definitely spent the man hours and resources just for the OG player base who are in their 40’s. Pure copium.
Fun fact. A large chunk of Retail is made up of Vanilla/TBC era players bro. I hate to break it to you but Classic was for all WOW fans and SoD is for al WOW fans.
You are wrong. The only reason we are even in this game forum in a rendition of vanilla is because of the OG player base that doesn’t play retail.
“You think you do but you don’t.”
#NeverForget
And you know this how? I can pretend to have numbers only Blizzard is privvy to as well.
Everyone I know who plays the various iterations of Classic also plays Retail FYI. That must prove something right?
I’m in a guild of 900+ and the vast majority go between Retail and SoD. Be careful with this high amount of copium that you’re huffing.