What's the hate with survival in M+?

I do not. Kind of ruins the class fantasy. They need to have mechanics so they don’t mostly favor ranged. Warriors do fine right now in most content.

it may do dmg sure but it doesnt bring the utility AND burst that a fire mage, boomy, bring. And it’s melee and melee is cancer in M+ this tier.

Maybe it’s not hate on survival, but rather just people who think you’re being a jerk for assuming they’re all fat for no reason?

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Doing yourself a lot of favors there I see.

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You’d be mistaken thinking I wanted Legion Survival to be a Hunter spec. But it was a very fun spec to play regardless of the issues with it being a Hunter spec.

because survival is probably one of the worst melee in the game right now.

People don’t use their emaciated brains, they just do whatever the streamers and websites tell them to do. Hunter grenades do great aoe.

Apparently plenty of people want a melee hunter. That’s why they play survival!

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Just gotta persevere! Sure, you may get more boots than a rodeo, but we can make it happen!

The fact you’re doing well with it is nice. However the community aren’t as open to certain class specs such as survival. It can exceed well, but they prefer range over melee though the spec performs both roles to an extent. The spec will remain as melee, but it needs improvements, but I congratulate you for your success. Don’t feel bad about it though because this expansion is kind of bad like BFA.

Hopefully next expansion sheds some light on it.

Your comment alone angers certain posters on these forums. I know one for sure that hates the idea of melee survival and will give lengthy paragraphs about the history of range survival spec egotistically.

You have KSM with 49 timed +15s and higher and 1415 IO as survival

Let’s be real honest here comps and meta mattered 3 months ago for 15s.

It doesn’t now.

And anyone who goes ewww survival with that sort of timed key record isn’t very bright.

I would argue they never mattered for almost the entire playerbase.

That just means WoW developers can’t design one well compared to GW2 developers. Rifle Spec Warrior. Long Bow Warrior.

Shoulda changed a rogue spec into ranged too

Depends on the developers. It can be done considering outlaw rogue’s pistol ability. I have played a rifle rogue before, but in another game…GW 2 of course.

Seems like catering for the meta has been making players leave the platform as of late. When the design of the game and talent tree been the same since MoP to an extent. You just lose interest.

I honestly don’t think it’s that they can’t, but rather they just don’t have an interest in doing so. We’ve had 3 melee classes added and actually lost one ranged spec.

I think if Blizz wanted to, they really could make more diverse and unique ranged specs. But I just don’t think they actually want to for whatever reason.

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There’s no catering to the meta, there will always be a meta.

What blizzard should be doing is more frequent class passes and buffs/nerfs. There is no justified reason why we should have to wait for a major patch every six or so months for classes to see some tweaking.

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Pretty sure the exact same thing was said about them never doing melee hunter…

They can’t. It’s not that they had no interest. They don’t know how to do it. Look how current survival hunter turned out. The lash back of it and etc. They’re like the Sega company. Great ideas, but poor executions.

Gotta milk them consumers.

Oh, I’ve given up all hope for them turning it around since the Preach interview. Just humoring an alternate reality.

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