What's the hate with survival in M+?

Everyone knows they’re garbage tier and need massive buffs, just look around. Oh are you saying they’re fine and don’t need buffs, it’s just perception? Hmmmmmmm

well they could use big buffs when it comes to raiding but theyre pretty good in m+ ngl.

i’ll take a surv in my m+s anytime.

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True true, that’s true. That is true, very true…true…true…

This except unironically.

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I don’t blame hunters for having a melee spec.

I blame Blizzard for not giving other classes ranged specs.

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The fact since Vanilla wsa released we’ve actually lost a ranged spec is a joke.

We’ve gained:
Survival hunter, Havoc DH, WW monk

Ranged:
???

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It’s why I really like the above idea of Warriors machine gunning throwing weapons.

Blizzard isn’t undoing survival hunter. It exists and people have a right to play it. And if they can perform in M+, there’s no reason for the stigma to exist.

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the need to do more range tank , make surval range tank , we get 3 tank in WOW alot of mele

Because they perform poorly and the devs have no idea what to do with it.

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You mean, they haven’t changed their mind and turned hunter back into a ranged class, as it was created to be. Just because they haven’t yet, doesn’t mean they won’t come to their senses and fix it down the track.

It isn’t a stigma, it’s a statistic. At the moment, in the Castle Nathria DPS rankings, Survival is 24 out of 24. Even if you take into account that some individuals play it well, that stat shows that few people play it in raids, and there is a reason for that.

I’d very much like to see it put back to a ranged spec because for me, I currently only have 2 specs available.

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They need to flip it back to ranged and rip off GW2’s Engineer. Wildfire bomb is the best thing it has going for it, so they might as well re-tool the spec to be a grenadier.

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Because all survival brings is uncapped aoe which due to SL changes its not really often to do huge pulls anymore…thus as just another melee in an expansion that isnt melee friendly people simply want the range hunter and as there plenty of range hunters to the 10 or so survival masocists in wow you will rarely be taken even if your over all hits 10k

While we defenility need more ranged dps specs and do not need anymore melee dps specs, survival was an answer to a group of players that had been asking for a true melee hunter spec for like 10+ years.

Survival needs something to make single target more interesting and to up its dps, overall it being a melee spec isn’t the problem.

I miss the old ranged survival play style, but lets be honest, most hunters played whatever of its 3 spec was the best dps at the time and all 3 specs played quite similarly.

If anything BM and marksmen at the moment have far more divergent play styles then all 3 specs were different from each other before Legion changed Survival to melee.

wtb ranged DH. I mean even lord illidan dropped a bow in TBC. Elves always a have a bow somewhere lol.

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In the tradition of Demon Hunters taking things from other classes I vote we give them the ranged Survival play style.

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Because the community is way too narrow minded and they think if they copy MDI players, they will perform just as well as them.

Survival hunters actually slap hard in M+. but the community has a bias against them, so they won’t invite them, regardless if they are good or not.

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What if I told you that DHs were gonna be in vanilla so they’d have the demon form first? For unknown reasons they didn’t get put in, same with TBC.

I know you know this, but to add to it: frost DK and unholy DK

noooooooooooooooooooooo

Heh unholy is semi-ranged, similar to survival.