What you would like for Evoker

For Dev, less threat generation, or a misdirect type ability added. I keep pulling threat no matter how long I wait to engage. Even running them through tank AoE doesn’t pull them off.

We’re getting this already (thankfully).

Notes:

  • Fire Breath threat generated reduced by 50%.

  • Pyre threat generated reduced by 30%.

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transmogs for dracthyr form :frowning:

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Idk why this range thing is still like everyone’s issue. Is your raid so spread out all the time you can’t even hit 5 people together? Or use mobility skills like hover, or if you are a good evoker verdant embrace? Like people say evoker doesn’t have skill expression but using verdant embrace to reposition for a huge heal is very much the definition of skill expression.

The only thing we should want for is actual transmogs that work.

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There is nothing unworkably wrong with the range for dev, but a lot of people would much prefer it. For Pres, I’d argue that the range is much more significantly restrictive. Either way, the class would feel better with longer range to many people (sorry to those of you who enjoy the mobility mini-game skill expression).

Can you tell me how? Your main healing spells already overhead for 50% on most fights last tier. Your living flames, don’t need the range. Your healing buttons do not need the range if your spam healing with living flame and people are dying. That’s not a range issue.

There is no range limitation only bad positioning. Something that shouldn’t even be happening in the first place.

Positioning IS the skill expression of the class, full stop.

There’s nuance at the high end of performance, but if you look at the logs of 99% of the people complaining that the DPS specs need more range, they have embarrassingly low hover uptime, never use rescue, and only cast VE on themselves :exploding_head::exploding_head:.

People just refuse to look at themselves as the reason they are struggling when it’s easier to blame something like the range when these forums are an echo chamber of people saying the same.

And they will throw a fit when people point it out, too. I do decently and there are still SO many ways I can improve my play, but I realize that it’s on me to get better and not on blizz to make the spec more braindead so I have no way to play poorly.

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I can say I do this in raids :frowning: but like at least I know it’s a personal issue. I know how I could fix it but keeping track of 20 players position is a lot harder than 2-4 other players.

Honestly idk how people have low uptime on hover. It’s like the literal best movement ability in the game and I’m not even talking about the dash. I only am not hovered if I’m out or literally nothing is happening.

So do I, plenty of the time.

The difference is that we aren’t complaining about the range. Complaining about something while not using every tool at your disposal (or in some cases, ANY of them) to help yourself, is asinine.

Yeah if you look through a lot of these threads where I call it out to people that they are barely using hover, the answer I get is ‘I only press hover when I need to get out of the way of something, that’s what it’s for!’.

The power of hover is to have it running before mechanics that can interrupt you even come out. I’d say I use the dash maybe 30% of the time at most.

Yes but sadly those persons like that one is so arrogant that he/she thinks everyone is just bad/plays bad, if you want more range.

Bring us more range dear Blizzard =) for more fun at our Evokers!

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I mean but that’s literally the unique evoker mechanic. It’s how it’s meant to be played. Stop trying to take away the skill expression and uniqueness of the class

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How I play has literally nothing to do with my statements being accurate/inaccurate.

I’ve very clearly made the statement (multiple times) that I’m not the best evoker player out there and I have a ton of room to improve myself.

Very shocking that you’re on a level 10 alt though, right?

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You say that it’s a skill issue. I don’t personally play pres as I don’t enjoy healing, but hearing world first raid leaders like Max talking about seriously questioning bringing pres to their comp due to their range issues and saying Bliz needs to increase their range to 40 yards, well that tells me there’s something up that needs looking at. I have a feeling he knows his stuff about issues with classes than many of us here.

Also, I am convinced that it’s the same one or two people always arguing against the many who come to this forum to share their views with their well rehearesed rebuttles. Just let them cook and have a voice yo. :rofl:

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They are posting just as I am. I know it’s hard to comprehend since these forums are mostly complainers looking for an echo chamber, but those of us that disagree have just as much right to “cook”.

Not agreeing with someone is not the same as silencing them. That is not happening here.

RWF strategies have very little to do with people that actually progress through content as they gear up.

What Max looks for in a healer that can perform on the final boss in week one is markedly different than what is playable for the rest of the population throughout the rest of the tier, especially given that most of them won’t even touch mythic, let alone the final boss of it.

At any rate, I’ve never heard him say that he couldn’t bring devastation in the first two seasons or augmentation in the third due to their range, which is a large % of the group advocating for “needing” more range.

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As true as all that is, you seem to be carrying the torch and almost single-handedly quelling the desperate cries of the masses for all the cool stuff they want. Think of all their crestfallen dracthyr forms crying onto their draconic tea.

Good, the cool stuff they want would ruin the class I enjoy, for no reason other than to make it an afk spec because using abilities is too hard.

If they want 40yds, they have plenty of options.

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Not really. Max also doesn’t bring a resto sham or ele sham. World first raiders have found ways in the past to abuse amz and get everyone stacked practically for a whole fight they could make it work if it was actually an issue.
Max has also stated that as long as Aug is the only spatial paradox user then why bring Dev or pres? World first raiding doesn’t transfer down below too far. Every class is more than able to do all the content.

Lols. Wait till you get a load of a certain poster on the warlock forum. Heaven help you if you do so much as imply you dont like maelfic rapture…

Some people dont seem capable of understanding that the truth, validity, or soundness of an argument is wholly unrelated to whether ones skill at a video game meets their arbitrary standard of “credibility.”

If they are doing their childish bickering with soneone above their own skill they will, quite unsurprisingly, invent a different reason for them to be wrong instead.

Back on topic, dream breath and deep breath: fix the god damn pathing please. I have to attempt to cast them 2 or 3 time on average even when there is nothing in the way.

I’ll just leave these here. Hardcore hypocrisy.

Making fun of your awful takes is also not silencing you. In case you’re confused, hypocrisy generally requires contradicting yourself.

I literally cannot silence anyone here. I do not have that capability, nor do I have the desire, actually. I’d have way less amusing reading material if that were to happen.

Just because you have no idea what you’re talking about does not exclude you from the conversation❤️.

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