What was Arthas SUPPOSED to do about Stratholme?

Okay dude usually these types of discussions are fun but you clearly just want to use it as a vehicle to insult me every time I reply back to you.

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Because you LIE to prove your point.

Simply stop lying and you won’t feel insulted.

Or you could try stop being insulting for once and present your counterpoints like an adult.

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Or you could stop LYING to prove your points, as well as ACKNOWLEDGE the references I (and others) clearly gave but you choose to ignore.

Sure dude, people who call you out on your nonsense are liars now. Par for the course with you. I can see why you are so angry and vitriolic when you make your points now, you sure won’t be able to convince anyone using reason or logic any time soon that’s for sure.

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Just you.

Here’s an example: “Uther and a small army of paladins were waiting for him” A LIE! There were NO paladins present other than Uther and Arthas.

Plenty people have agreed and verified my stance such as Zerde, among others.

You lost this debate, dude. And badly.

arthas still a trash can. his whole mindset n personailty is bc his stupid horse died and he had ptsd for mercy killing it or w/e years ago. he did everything wrong in strat. the horse prolly controlled him from shadowlands lmao.

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Lol. :rofl:

Good one.

Well I have 13 more minutes before I am on the clock so why not:

“Those of you who have the will, follow me, the rest of you, get out of my sight!” Now I am just paraphrasing from memory here, have not seen it in countless years. I am not a liar if I get one or two words wrong here, sheesh. This line suggests a couple of things. First of all, there were many others with them, not just Uther and Arthas. Now I assumed they were all Paladins, if that’s wrong, that’s wrong. Doesn’t mean I am lying. However, it would have suited your argument better if they were in fact paladins. If they were they could have had some measure of protection against the undead within the city. But if the rest of them were just underling foot soldiers, Arthas had pretty much already sacrificed them. So arguing that trying to save people would have been too risky is a moot point.

I invite you to reply with something non-vitriolic otherwise that’s all from me.

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I’m barely paying attention here and even I can see you’re wrong.

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Yes it does mean you’re a liar. Why?

Because if you say it once and it’s debunked by my, and others, references, it could be considered a mistake.

If you KEEP on saying it despite the references given that there were NO other paladins present, then it’s considered a LIE because you keep persisting on it.

This is an insane argument. A bunch of paladins, no matter how talented, CANNOT stand against an entire city of zombies. It’s called NUMBERS.

Not a moot point at all, just because you say it is.

Oh please, don’t try to gaslight me. I’ve been MORE than reasonable with you by providing references to debunk your claims (such as Zerde and other posters here gave references as well). Case in point, Uther having paladins with him. Not my problem you want to outright ignore those references.


 And I’m done.

You were done the moment you started lying in this debate to win your points.
Bye.

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I looked over that section too, and while it does have that, if you look at the conversation he has with Jaina before starting it talks about his demeanor changed towards her as soon as she balked at his decision. He had made up his mind and wouldn’t let anyone second guess him.

I don’t think I’m saying anything controversial to say that this is where he started turning on his hero to villain arc, and that his ego that told him that his decision was the only one and those who disagreed were basically traitors was a big part of that downfall.

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Stand off and nuke them from orbit


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It’s the only way to be sure.

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This could have been an interesting conversation but some of you turned it into a game about winning and losing debates and blustered through every counter point you tried to make. I dunno why but this was irritating. Like excuseee me to hell for taking the time out and trying to talk to you about something in-game I’m sure? A blunt reminder on why these forums can be cankerous I guess. Always a human paladin that takes the filling out of donuts, never an orc.

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Kil’Jaeden and Ner’zhul would like to have a word with you.

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As opposed to the points which you decided to totally ignore, that were WITH REFERENCES to counter yours???

Dude, you’re absolute full of it and people see you for what you are. You are not interested in any meaningful conversation; all you want to do is prove your perspective no matter what anyone else says counter to yours even when giving you full references.

Simple as that.

I really can’t get over how ironic this is, and you said it like a dozen times now. You cherry pick references and draw your own conclusions, masquerading your opinions as facts. Which you know, that’s fine unto itself because everyone tends to do that. But you keep harkening onto how you are the only one capable of dropping “real” facts and everyone else are liars.

Like I have repeatedly tried to get thru that head of yours, it’s not what you said that is irritating, it’s how you say it that sours any real meaningful conversation.

Reset this a minute, would you? What fact is it that you think I am ignoring? Spell it out for me one last time. Let me agree or rebuttal that one fact head on. For all of your dozens of posts saying I am ignoring your references, you haven’t actually told me what I was ignoring.

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