What the Blood Elves should do

Wouldn’t the most logical thing for the Blood Elves to do right now is just, find a way to get Ban’dinoriel operational again, respectfully secede from the Horde, Tell the Horde and Alliance, Fix your BS on your own, we’ll check back in on you in a couple thousand years, then shut the door in their face by putting up the Shield.

I doubt there is anyone left in the world, save for maybe the Titanic keepers (Maybe) that could break the shield when powered by the Sunwell. The Scourge found it impossible to pierce the shield powered by the original Sunwell, and had to use an inside traitor to turn it off from the inside. An educated guess says the current Sunwell is more powerful than the original, due to its dual power sources (Arcane and Light).

What reason do the Blood Elves have to waste lives on this absurd war. (Not just Sylvanas war, but the entire Horde/Alliance conflict ever since just after WC3 Frozen Throne.

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Didn’t the Amani, strengthened by the Zandalari, almost break it? Not sure that is viable.

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Thats actually never stated. The shield is not at all mentioned in the Troll wars for some reason. The Amani brought with them several of their gods to help them. We dont know if the Shield was unable to stop them, or if the Elves simply didnt want to abandon their southern lands at the time, which are not covered by the shield.

The Blood Elves can easily abandon their southern lands though, since the current population is far far smaller than the High Elf population used to be.

I asked the same question myself. There is no reason to remain in the Horde but the Blood Elves have to remain playable…

The Ban’dinoriel is not that invincible. The Horde was able to break down one of the Runestones during the Second War, as per Chronicle: Volume II:

    Thousands of years ago, after the War of the Ancients, Quel’Thalas had erected a powerful magical barrier around its kingdom. This was Ban’dinoriel, “the Gatekeeper.” The shield was tied to a series of monolithic Runestones, relics that prevented the Burning Legion and other outsiders from detecting the arcane magics wielded by the high elves. They also weakened the powers of their enemies, such as the Amani trolls.

    Gul’dan claimed that dismantling one of the Runestones would disrupt the barrier and restore the Horde’s use of magic. Then he and his followers would use the relic to strengthen the Horde for the siege of Quel’Thalas.

    After much consideration, Doomhammer agreed to the plans. He didn’t trust Gul’dan. But thus far, the warlock had proved himself useful and loyal to the Horde. Orgrim’s spies in the Stormreaver clan reported no mischievous activities. What Doomhammer didn’t know was that Gul’dan had won these spies to his side with threats, promises of power, and other means.

    Doomhammer still suspected a day would come when Gul’dan would try to betray him and take control of the Horde. He never could have imagined the truth: the warlock was planning to abandon the Horde.

    In recent months, Gul’dan had nearly amassed the power to do so. Though the death knights had not proved to be as loyal to him as he had once hoped, he had the backing of two mighty clans: the Stormreavers and the Twilight’s Hammer. Yet that was not enough. Not nearly. The warlock needed as much power as he could get to fend off Doomhammer and any other foes he would meet on his journey to the Tomb of Sargeras. Quel’Thalas’s mysterious relics would give Gul’dan the strength he needed.

    He and his followers quickly dismantled one of Quel’Thalas’s Runestones. They chiseled away at the monolithic relic to build structures known as the Altars of Storms. Gul’dan then turned to an ancient ritual used by the Highmaul ogres. In the distant past, they’d found a way to empower members of their own race. By channeling raw arcane magic into regular ogres, the Highmaul could transform them into highly intelligent two-headed ogre magi.

    Few living ogres knew of this technique, but Cho’gall was one of them. He handpicked the brutish ogres who would undergo the transformation, and he oversaw the rituals himself.

    Before long, two-headed ogre magi emerged from the altars. They were just as powerful as Gul’dan had hoped they’d be. More importantly, they secretly swore their loyalty to him.

    Now, all that remained for Gul’dan was finding the right time to make his move.

    With the Runestone desecrated, the Horde’s death knights and other spellcasters regained their powers. Orgrim’s forces stormed toward Quel’Thalas’s capital, Silvermoon City. They terrorized the countryside, pillaging settlements and cutting down every elf they found.

    King Anasterian called on his greatest generals to stop the Horde’s advance. Elf magi and rangers spread across Quel’Thalas to resist Orgrim’s forces, but they did not have to fight alone for long. Turalyon and Alleria soon arrived with half of the Alliance army.

    While Turalyon organized his soldiers and launched attacks against the Horde, Alleria met with Anasterian in Silvermoon City. She urged the elf king to pledge his forces to the Alliance, but he needed little convincing. Anasterian was furious about the Horde’s assault. Not since the ancient Troll Wars had the elves died in such numbers. Not since that terrible time had their lands been so defiled. Humans and elves had once banded together to save their respective kingdoms from oblivion. Now, they would do so again.

    The Alliance would have the full support and backing of Quel’Thalas.

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According to Chronicle Volume 2 page 164 “The Horde smashed against the shield again and again, but the barrier did not give way. Even the red dragons mystical fire could not breach it.” If it can withstand the attacks of a large force of red Dragons, then its a pretty powerful shield.

Now its worth mentioning that Ban’dinoriel includes several secondary systems, not just the main shield. The Runestones emit a field across the entire Kingdom that weaken the Magic of all non High/Blood Elves. This is what Gul’dan was trying to tear down. He claimed he had a way of Breaching the main shield it self, but this was likely something he just said to Doomhammer so he wouldn’t get killed over the slow progress.

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We have since learned of one of these systems, though, finding out that the Runestones were once enhanced by nature magic that the Blood Elves no longer have access to, either, from Tales of the Hunt, the Hunter Artifact Knowledge lore tome:

    Thas'dorah, Legacy of the Windrunners, Part One

    Nearly 7,000 years ago, the Highborne founded a new home in the Eastern Kingdoms. Their journey had been hard, and the land was hostile. But the end result was astonishing.

    The elves built upon a confluence of magical ley lines and created a city, Silvermoon, near the Sunwell, a fount of pure arcane power. The kingdom of Quel’Thalas rose over the land as a shining monument of the glorious civilization that had once surrounded the shores of the Well of Eternity.

    As the Sunwell’s magic radiated outward through Eversong Woods, the forest’s oldest tree began to absorb its energy. The massive tree was named Thas’alah, the “Light of the Forest.” From its enchanted branches, the entire region seemed to be bathed in the glow of an eternal spring.

    Thas’dorah, Legacy of the Windrunners, Part Two

    The Highborne elves of Quel’Thalas had fended off constant attacks from Amani trolls. To keep their enemies at bay, they constructed a series of monolithic Runestones that acted as wards against intruders-and also hid the elves’ use of arcane magic from the Burning Legion.

    The wards succeeded in keeping their enemies out of Silvermoon, in part due to their anchor: the elven arcanists had linked the Runestones to Thas’alah, tying the power of natural magic to their arcane spells.

    Thas’dorah, Legacy of the Windrunners, Part Eleven

    Quel’Thalas is not what it once was. Thas’alah, the tree from which this bow was crafted, was cut down by the forces of Arthas Menethil. The citadel of Deatholme now stands atop its withered roots.

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I mean, we literally reactivate one of the runestones in game, its just a matter of recharging it. Magic tree is nice and all, but it doesnt seem nescessary.

I suppose you can think that. Just seems like it is a bit of an obtuse view to me.

From Zul’Aman, the Zandalari emissaries observed the unfolding war with pleasure. Even the elves and their potent arcane powers could not withstand the might of the Amani - the might of the troll race.
The trolls’ ultimate victory was only a matter of time.

The Amani threat was far greater than Thoradin or his advisors could have ever imagined. The high elves argued that without assistance from Arathor, the trolls would soond estroy Quel’Thalas. After that, the Amani would launch the full might of their blood-crazed warbands against Strom itself.

Not to mention, the Nightborne thought they were safe. But apparently undermining is still an issue for magical shields.

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Lastly, the Blood Elves’ current enemy once Lor’themar turns against her will be Sylvanas herself, who will full well know how to disable anything the Blood Elves can come up with.

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Thats a fair point, the Trolls did bring several gods with them. Even if the Shield just slowed them down, its an impressive feat. Most current Warcraft armies, at least the ones the Blood Elves would be likely to face, wont have gods helping them on the front lines. We’ve already killed the gods of the Amani after all.

I would find it odd that the Amani could breach the shield, but the Scourge, with the help from the Burning Legion could not, and had to turn to Dar’khan for help.

They don’t really stay dead. We see them again in Zul’Drak during Wrath of the Lich King, this time friendly to us while helping the Zandalari Witch Doctor Khufu.

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Thats a bit of a Stretch, Sylvanas is a ranger, Granted she was ranger general, but she’s not a mage. She shouldn’t have knowledge on how to deactivate the shield. Dar’khan was able to figure it out because he was a pretty skilled Magister. Sylvanas knows some spooky death magic, but I doubt that would help her here.

She knew about the Key of the Three Moons same as Dar’Khan, having being Ranger General and all. She also has Sunreavers supporting her, and Magister Hathorel even survives the Baine rescue mission.

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Not sure if they had to. Just made things expedient.

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Even if she could, which I doubt, she is going to what? Do all of this meanwhile losing the war vs the Alliance? The shield doesnt have to be impenetrable, just tough enough to discourage people from wasting resources, while fighting a war vs other people.

All they really have to do to keep Sylvanas out is change up how the System Works. Since there having to rebuild it, and since the old mooncrystals are gone, rebuilding the shield would infact likely involve making it different than the original. Probably stronger and more secure, given their experience with Dar’khan.

The Blood Elves can’t even hold the Ghostlands without the Forsaken forces at Tranquillien, even less have we seen them start rebuilding anything.

I question even how the Blood Elves are holding their lands at all due to the extents that the Forsaken have evacuated from the Eastern Kingdoms.

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The Geostrategic situation has likely changed since the days of Burning Crusade. If the Blood Elves can send powerful Expeditionary forces to Draenor and Isle of Thunder, they probably can hold their own turf by now.

Evidence seems to suggest they are mass producing their Blood Golem variants, likely to make up for their smaller population numbers.

The situation in Ghostlands is no longer so dire that “we need a couple dozen Forsaken troops or else the front collapses.”

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We actually saw that things haven’t changed in the Ghostlands in both the Void Elf recruitment quests and the Three Sisters comic.

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And we saw that you’re incorrect, since the Forsaken have virtually abandoned the continent, and yet Silvermoon and her territories are just fine.

The forces the Blood Elves were shown to have deployed on Draenor alone would be more than sufficient to hold the line against whats left of the Trolls and Scourge in Ghostlands.

There are no organized enemies left to fight in Ghostlands, the Scourge are dormant, no longer a hive mind actively trying to attack northward, and the Trolls have been neutered.