everything in lore fell apart at the broken shore the stability for peace ever hoping to last died the horde became nothing but a shell of itself by the end of the war due to constant infighting civil war and just war. the alliance gained an extremly in compident king who is only give a tiny amount of respect and only because of who his father wise anduins bad leadership skills is driving the alliance apart
Yes Garrosh had to literally call in an entirely different universe. I suppose you can make that argument.
Sylvanas lost. Even if Saurfang didnāt bait her, Org was poised to fall yet again. In the loyalist side of the Horde War Campaign, you go on a last minute ditch effort to literally kill civilians who were questioning things and rally the other citizens to fight. You still are hunting down ātraitor leadersā at the very cusp of the battle.
I also forgot the Horde " elite air force" is moose cows riding big eagles.
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hey, you canāt do that. Laser sharks are clearly patented goblin technology.
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Equivalent to Wildhammers, which have also proven to be incredibly effective.
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We have space marines in mechs.
And we also have several flavors of mechs. Half of what we see Lightforged doing is dying. Weāve fought and destroyed those mechs.
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Horde player here, but I do play both at intervals. Alliance never burned a major capital. Horde has theramore and darnassus, as well as scourging their own undercity because reasons. We arenāt the bad guys but weāve had dumb leadership that lead to some dumb moves that can and should have repercussions. If Jaina is bitter itās only because she got nuked at Theramore after all.
Umm, have you checked the cinematics? Anduin and Greymane acknowledge that even though theyāre holding critical locations, fighting the Horde is too expensive in life and manpower. If Saurfang hadnāt fired up his insurrection, the Alliance was going to straight up run out of soldiers.
Tyrandeās campaign in Darkshore would be their only shot at moving on Orgrimmar. How THAT would work, IDK.
The 4th War leaves everyone in a terrible spot moving into the Shadowlands. The Horde has no territory for their population, while the Alliance has no manpower left to protect theirs.
Post Shadowlands, both factions are going to be needing adventures to kill-the-kobolds-on-the-side-of-the-road for a good while. Which is fine, because Iād like to go back to low stakes adventuring for a time.
So we gonna pretend theramore didnt happen? Yeah? Ok thenā¦oh and the vale and the fact zandalari were with the mogu in pandariaā¦both sides done terrible things so claiming something one sides done is bad when both do equally bad thingsā¦i mean come on theres no point with comparing faction D size they are about equalā¦
Easy enough. We stole it from the Blue Dragonflight. I donāt see why robbing Jainaās any harder to pull off.
I havenāt forgotten your city who got wrecked and was inhabited by demonsā¦a city that needed the alliance to retake it. I also havenāt forgot how every interaction between Jaina and traitorous wench (who literally owes her life to me who toiled for weeks on end to save her) is said wench cooing and adoring Jaina and asking for tips and secretsā¦like some desperate apprentice hoping Sempai will notice her.
I also havenāt forgot how the straggler remnants of the defeated orc clans (notice a theme here when it comes to orcs). I also havenāt forgot this fabulous Iron Horde tech which is basically just more spiky metal bombs.
Again, I seem to recall our ātiny precision laserā punching a hole in a legion battleshipā¦that hole was pretty damn huge and looked quite thick. That is also assuming it had no kind of special demon magic or wards on it also (which I seem to recall it did).
Now Iāll admit I donāt know what has gone on in that book, but Iām still fairly certain the alliance spy network trumps the Horde even with that fat frog. Plus how good can a frog be not in a outdoor environment? Pretty sure a frog hopping around is going to get noticed pretty quick.
I do hope though that the writers actually give the Horde some military teeth. I donāt want a lopsided/1 sided story. I want the Alliance to have morally questionable acts and Horde not to be the roid raging idiots who only still play a relevant role because the writers canāt just let them get decimated.
I donāt think you know what literally means since you managed to find the words to whine about the writing of the assault.
unspeakable? no, hardly.
Moronic and badly written. Oh very much.
Anyone remember when Bravadoās posts made sense? Yeah, me neither.
Yo Roseā¦
Whether its me or must be the matrix deja vu glitch but arenāt you Rosenlynd as a Blood Elf Warlock? or you have both?
I am so confused
Look harder, think deeper, become one with the words and read the subtle hints. All will become clear. All will make sense.
This was my take away.
Letās be honest he is onto something. Elves are now on their way to global domination. They outnumber any other race.
But that is my point. The game is telling us these things but the way things have happened leading up to BfA, it SHOULDNāT be the case. If the writers actually wrote what realistically would happen, the Horde would not exist BECAUSE of all the Alliance advantages.
Horde NEED an answer to the space ship. They NEED to show their magical prowess. They NEED to show actual military advantages, tactics, and reasons that show they would be a threat.
It makes 0 sense why the Alliance would be ālosingā a war in the first place. All the āfactsā (as one can claim in a fictional world to begin with) do NOT lead a story to this point. Of course Blizzard isnāt going to have the Alliance just straight up win, but theyāve not written things in such a way that would lead credible reason to believe otherwise.
Thatās why Iāve said it doesnāt make sense. Alliance hold all the advantages ESPECIALLY if you ignore the books and only go by what happens in the game.
The two biggest plot holes in WoW are the Xenedar and the Bilgewater Boomsday Cannon.
Garrosh could have wiped out all other nations in Azeroth between the cannon and the focusing iris. Mana bomb here, mana bomb there, mana bomb to this continent, mana bomb to that continent. Mana bomb off to the west, JUST in case thereās a continent off to the west. He didnāt stop to think. He had it all along. Until he didnāt.
Post Legion, the Xenedar and the Boomsday cannon could be explained away by mutually assured destruction. So I guess thereās that.
The Blood elf Warlock youāre thinking of is Rosenivy. Whomst told me that they get mixed up with me apparently.
This is the first time I ever had someone on the forums talk to me about this oddly enough.
Iām rambling, but that was Rosen-IVY. Different person.
Hmmmā¦
Wellā¦yāknowā¦thereās a saying of ādoppelgƤngersā
Thanks for clarifying that with me,
I swear to youā¦I am actually drunk tonight but recalling back your posts and seeing it now I was ārationallyā confused but now makes sense,
Unless youāre FOOLING me ROSE!